From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.blogging Subject: Re: [Emacsweblogs] i18n Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:22:50 +0900 Message-ID: <87vdehozth.fsf@xemacs.org> References: <1e7a74211001281954h1295a717id942a4405dc98b25@mail.gmail.com> <87vdekbt60.fsf@everybody.org> <1e7a74211001310729s6b0c506cv41cdea9b19274fba@mail.gmail.com> <87fx5l8kat.fsf@everybody.org> <877hqxqqxz.fsf@xemacs.org> <87hbq1rw4n.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1265029872 16164 80.91.229.12 (1 Feb 2010 13:11:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 13:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Mark A. Hershberger" , smc , emacsweblogs@nongnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 01 14:11:09 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nbw3Y-0001sk-Ih for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:11:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60045 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nbw3X-0001h2-AY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 08:11:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Nbw3Q-0001gg-U1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 08:11:00 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41725 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nbw3P-0001gQ-P3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 08:10:59 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nbw3O-00085c-Ce for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 08:10:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]:52413) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nbw3N-00085M-Uw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 08:10:58 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3382E1535AC; Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:10:57 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 40F344BEA8; Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:22:50 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <87hbq1rw4n.fsf@mail.jurta.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" a03421eb562b XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:120776 gmane.emacs.blogging:87 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: > > The question is "Too ugly?" > > Perhaps less ugly would be not to add special markers to each and every > message, but to translate existing messages internally (e.g. in the > function `message', in functions that display menus or doc-strings) > depending on the current language environment like `tutorial' does > automatically selecting the language of the tutorial. The problem is that the *human* translators need the markers to know what to translate.