From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim X Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Failing to see the allure of Emacs Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:40:07 +1100 Organization: Unlimited download news at news.astraweb.com Message-ID: <87vdcle6vc.fsf@rapttech.com.au> References: <877hp5e2op.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87pr2u7ie3.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1272998393 8060 80.91.229.12 (4 May 2010 18:39:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 18:39:53 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 04 20:39:52 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O9N26-0003O7-QB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 May 2010 20:39:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36966 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O9N26-00084J-AM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 May 2010 14:39:50 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!news.alt.net!news.astraweb.com!border2.newsrouter.astraweb.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:NvJfeb7gXc2ME0b8bQlXVJ+3SGE= Original-Lines: 47 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: e54e76c9.news.astraweb.com Original-X-Trace: DXC=@ogoLTHgmPe3i\; U\i>iJhL?0kYOcDh@jm9O; FE?@3 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:73048 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > "akaiser@visi.com" writes: > >>>> How I'd love to see complete, up to date, readily usable >>>> documentation! >>> Huh? Check out the manuals in the "Help" menu. >> >> Not complete, > > Huh? > >> not up to date, > > Huh??? > >> and not readily usable. > > Huh????? > >> Readily usable documentation would include complete reference >> information for every function, variable, and macro bundled with emacs >> at every release. > > Have you tried the i command in the Elisp manual? > >> It would provide some way better than string search to look for >> related concepts. > > The concept index, maybe? > >> That kind of thing is real work. I'd be pretty happy with just >> complete and up to date. > > It does a rather good job IMO. I agree with David. The documentation side of emacs is pretty darn good - possibly the best of any open source project I've seen. Given the OPs crits, I wonder if their install is missing the elisp reference manual? Sounds to me like they have found the emacs reference manual, but have missed the elisp manual. Tim -- tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au