From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: emacs-20101122 windows binaries Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 11:15:41 +0900 Message-ID: <87vd3nbh6a.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <8762vpj9ep.fsf@gmail.com> <87d3pwt759.fsf@home.jasonrumney.net> <871v6cjagz.fsf@gmail.com> <874ob7tzlr.fsf@home.jasonrumney.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1290564942 10629 80.91.229.12 (24 Nov 2010 02:15:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 02:15:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Sean Sieger' , emacs-devel@gnu.org, 'Jason Rumney' To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 24 03:15:36 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PL4tT-00067G-H2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 03:15:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60909 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PL4tS-0003K0-Jt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:15:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=57855 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PL4tE-0003Gs-3Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:15:28 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PL4t5-0003G3-Fw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:15:20 -0500 Original-Received: from imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.254.161]:50831) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PL4t5-0003FY-3o; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:15:11 -0500 Original-Received: from imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp (imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp [127.0.0.1]) by postfix.imss71 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A5A2AF543; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 11:15:10 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (unknown [130.158.97.223]) by imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356112AF542; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 11:15:10 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C6E3FA051A; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 11:15:10 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DEFC11A3FC7; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 11:15:41 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" ed3b274cc037 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:133105 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > Users could themselves decide whether they want to pay the penalties of > additional local disk space and increased download time (and build time?). Users have less information about the value of the debug information. If we encourage people who don't have gdb installed to use debug builds, what have we gained? :-) Making multiple builds available is an admin PITA (if you know how to do better, please advise, but that's been my experience) and the disk space can add up fast (since modularized installs are detested by most users; they want a one-file-download-and-no-questions-asked-install).