From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10238: R in gnus-summary does not pop a frame like F does Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:34:42 -0600 Organization: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=A2=D0=B5=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BE=D1=80_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=97=D0=BB=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87vco0ivb1.fsf__47911.0014428899$1327440955$gmane$org@lifelogs.com> References: <87pqe8kbg1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83pqe823oj.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1327440955 3942 80.91.229.12 (24 Jan 2012 21:35:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:35:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 10238@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, ding@gnus.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 24 22:35:50 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rpo1u-00071o-6e for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:35:12 -0600 Original-Received: from tzlatanov-ubuntu-desktop.jumptrading.com ([10.2.27.110]) by internalsmtp.w2k.jumptrading.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:35:12 -0600 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" In-Reply-To: <83pqe823oj.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:25:48 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2012 21:35:12.0326 (UTC) FILETIME=[0DA3A660:01CCDAE0] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:55965 Archived-At: On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:25:48 +0200 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Ted Zlatanov >> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:00:46 -0600 >> Cc: 10238@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen >> SM> IOW, just make sure that if you only read the first 80 chars of SM> the first line, you get something meaningful that describes the bulk of SM> the patch. >> >> I'm OK with the above, as long as the Gnus developers are allowed to go >> over 80 in the first line within reason. So we'll keep the first line >> short, but if it has to go a little over 80, we'll make sure the really >> important stuff is at the very beginning. EZ> I have yet to see a doc string whose first line could not be made less EZ> than 80 characters. When in trouble, ask for help here, there are EZ> enough native English speakers here who are proficient in making that EZ> line clear, concise, and short. We're talking about VCS commit messages, not docstrings. It's a different context, and for VCS commits often there is information that needs to be distilled into that first line and 80 chars are not enough. Ted