From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Conf Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:34:04 +0900 Message-ID: <87vcc8ymdv.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87vcc8phw8.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1355283272 25011 80.91.229.3 (12 Dec 2012 03:34:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 03:34:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Bastien , Aleksandar Simic , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 12 04:34:46 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tid5o-0002Ne-D0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 04:34:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33497 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tid5b-0001OM-1K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:34:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58958) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tid5T-0001OD-3r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:34:28 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tid5O-0007ZA-P3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:34:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:36419) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tid5J-0007X7-U0; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:34:14 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2369708C6; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:34:04 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 432721A27B5; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:34:04 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta32) "habanero" b0d40183ac79 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:155499 Archived-At: Glenn Morris writes: > I'll bite and say that I don't see why an Emacs user conference > should be discussed on the development mailing list (rather than the > user mailing list). Well, it would be nice if a few developers showed up. Go to PyCon or RubyWorld and compare attendance at non-Guido[1]-developer and non-Matz-developer presentations to attendance at J-Random-User presentations. Bastien (as an Org-Mode developer) would be a draw, DAK (as AUCTeX-Czar-Emeritus) would be a draw, but Stefan or Yidong would be 5 times the draw, and Eli (w32stuff) or Miles (lexbind) or Mike A (TRAMP, dbus) or Glenn Morris (who dat?! :-) might bring in 2X as many people. Agreed, developer invitations might be best handled with direct negotiations off-list. Maybe one explicit CFP here. Footnotes: [1] Ie, a core dev != Guido van Rossum. Wouldn't be at all fair to compare Joe Shmoe to the BDFL, and you probably can't get RMS at a random Emacs user conference anyway -- but if even 200 people show at one, I bet he'll be there the next year!