From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hongxu Chen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Does anyone really use emacs in terminal? Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 16:44:45 +0800 Message-ID: <87vc6obn9e.fsf@gmail.com> References: <0b72021c-139f-4269-8e81-5b5ef97fb83d@googlegroups.com> <8761yu64e4.fsf@Servus.decebal.nl> <87r4higq45.fsf@gmail.com> <87ip2tyftv.fsf@yahoo.fr> <20130508155351.GA5399@hysteria.proulx.com> <87obclrrb9.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <25153223-A058-4762-A1FC-7744472B958A@Web.DE> <87ppwxi89x.fsf@gmail.com> <87k3n5i4ap.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1368348319 15699 80.91.229.3 (12 May 2013 08:45:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 08:45:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "jay.p.belanger" , help-gnu-emacs To: Peter Dyballa Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 12 10:45:17 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UbRu2-0007gd-Oy for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 May 2013 10:45:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44014 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UbRu2-0001yV-CK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 May 2013 04:45:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47857) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UbRto-0001yM-9y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 May 2013 04:44:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UbRtl-0007WW-K2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 May 2013 04:44:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pb0-x233.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c01::233]:64505) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UbRtl-0007W2-Dc for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 May 2013 04:44:53 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id wy7so3724193pbc.10 for ; Sun, 12 May 2013 01:44:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=J2j/xK4EozV9Wg0SPljwidUC2f/dsDudEIkuzCvT3Ss=; b=owvCRe0XDYGEctFdUW6nUU1Cv8sQFPI/5fk3e3InsDd0G398Baxuz91IkbY/3uoLNV ekcFwOt7JrlYbz4Xh8Ym+gAGYBjdMJiJ6BwkhR2umDTBFExxticVAkueMc8NV69HDxV/ WDK9LZnBD+zlb02tRcdbTLyU1/d+nopdGrG4RN36eOjR/fJga6uHsxfSyIgk5YT9NCYo DKSK2Ly22UKRAtWYFopHA9daWlNXQBw+G8CVNde0y0x0uCi3m4FH/5brFU4Q1YVplpfp Ca1nuZGFoVFmKNr8JfL4hbJ8J6qZRiu4gPtFNGdnxUkB648HqB7/p7motTeGQwff2WsI q95w== X-Received: by 10.66.248.40 with SMTP id yj8mr24595023pac.95.1368348292377; Sun, 12 May 2013 01:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from hongxuchen-VM.STAP ([202.120.40.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id to7sm10119445pab.0.2013.05.12.01.44.49 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 12 May 2013 01:44:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Peter Dyballa's message of "Sun, 12 May 2013 10:30:34 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c01::233 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:90658 Archived-At: Peter Dyballa writes: > Am 12.05.2013 um 00:32 schrieb Jai Dayal: > >> so if >> you're not willing to do a little extra work and expect me to prove the >> most basic trivial things, I'm going to ask you to put something on the >> line, i.e., when I show you Vim's calculus plugins, you never post on th= is >> mailing list again. deal? > > Vi has an interface to shell level: :!. This way you can use expr, bc, or= dc to calculate something for vi =E2=80=93 or use a GNU Emacs script for s= omething less comprehensible=E2=80=A6 However this is inconvenient since Vim just forked a new shell process. Now and then I forget whether the shell's parent process is Vim. > > A bit different is :!emacs -nw =E2=80=93 now you are in GNU Emacs, = in terminal, as > the subject announces, and can forget that you were in vi before and now = are not > that limited. You can even files on some remote host! No plugin necessary. > > -- > Greetings > > Pete > > If you don't find it in the index, look very carefully through the entire= catalogue. > =E2=80=93 Sears, Roebuck, and Co., Consumer's Guide, 1897 > > --=20 Regards, Hongxu Chen