From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: replacing a function with another one Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 21:14:56 +0100 Organization: my virtual residence Message-ID: <87vbvfuslb.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> References: <87vbvofsi6.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <87bnxgs4r9.fsf@web.de> <87lhwj1cfz.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <87zjkz6vd5.fsf@web.de> <8738ir161u.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <87eh2b6nfm.fsf@web.de> <87r46anab5.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <87vbvleiey.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <87vbvlbm8p.fsf@web.de> <87siqpsdgs.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <87iorljkhx.fsf@web.de> <87pplsivy7.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <87a9cwtj76.fsf@web.de> <87iorjmidz.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <878usey1mg.fsf@web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1394918105 25336 80.91.229.3 (15 Mar 2014 21:15:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 21:15:05 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 15 22:15:13 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WOvvD-0004Ae-Gd for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2014 22:15:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51198 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WOvvC-0006Pf-TY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2014 17:15:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41105) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WOvun-0006JP-Fq for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2014 17:14:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WOvue-0002lH-29 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2014 17:14:45 -0400 Original-Received: from client-194-42-186-216.muenet.net ([194.42.186.216]:36523 helo=yun.yagibdah.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WOvud-0002je-N0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2014 17:14:35 -0400 Original-Received: from lee by yun.yagibdah.de with local (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WOvuT-0005k4-NE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2014 22:14:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: <878usey1mg.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Thu, 13 Mar 2014 08:54:47 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 194.42.186.216 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:96520 Archived-At: Michael Heerdegen writes: > lee writes: > >> The function is defined in the source. The documentation of it should >> tell you what it does and how to make it do that. Besides that the >> documentation of advice-add doesn=C2=B4t do that, advice-add is complica= ted, >> convoluted and cryptic. > > It's only cryptic for you because you are not yet used to LISP and its > concepts. This is no critic; the working of nadvice is just hardly > understandable for someone not knowing yet how `let' works. This is > also no critic. We have all started from the beginning, and I respect > that you start hacking with a quite ambitious project. Once you are > having fun using higher order functions and such stuff, you'll see that > it makes some sense. Maybe in a few years ... I just learn by doing --- I`m using emacs for over 20 years and wish I had learned more in the past. I never got to it and didn`t bother much because it has always been working great. Elisp is fun when you get used to it some, and it`s surprisingly powerful. I have created a mode from scratch yesterday and set up a repo for things like that: https://github.com/lee-/emacs --=20 Knowledge is volatile and fluid. Software is power.