From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Helm (and?) or Icicles (possibly using Evil) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 18:17:20 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87vbtxcrjj.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> References: <4cd079bd-9978-422f-9449-51d8fbe76485@googlegroups.com> <0d24af8b-a235-4c4e-b946-408c74d849a0@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1398442835 7482 80.91.229.3 (25 Apr 2014 16:20:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 16:20:35 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 25 18:20:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WdirL-0006EJ-CT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Apr 2014 18:20:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59055 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WdirK-0002mx-Ub for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Apr 2014 12:20:18 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!news.stack.nl!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 44 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: VVbyYd/iFZoeWNmD9i++cQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:BHTL8o7/xWYiRzN5NtwLybp99gk= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:205107 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:97373 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > People use Emacs differently, learn things > differently, have different needs, and have different > preferences. Absolutely - people and situations are unique. But people and situations are also too a much higher degree *the same*. Hockey teams today would obliterate the starts of the 50s, and this is because they have a tenfolded dose of training, and training that is much better, not due to God-given talent or smarts, but due to the collective experience from hockey clubs all around the world of what works - and note, what works *in general*. On the other hand, you should never be afraid to try new things, to experiment. It is just that is a long and painful and slow road, and it is easy to get disheartened and simply quit somewhere along the way. But with time and determination, that works as well. I guess what works in general (paragraph 1) is indispensable for the common, basic (and very important) stuff; at a somewhat higher level (or in stages) you might want to do paragraph 2 and get individualistic (in a positive sense) and creative about it. Put it this way: I'm sure young Timudjin killed countless of foes on the steppe, foes that were unique, and in situations that were unique. But the method was always the same: with a bow, from the horseback. And why did the method work? Because of skills, acquired at home, training with his brothers, and on the battlefield, taking on bigger and bigger opponents. Emacs is neither hockey or ancient Mongolia, but other than that, it is the same things at work. -- underground experts united: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573