From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: editor and word processor history (was: Re: RTF for emacs) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2014 01:03:24 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87vbsltutf.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87ha4d64r2.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> <87bnuho13m.fsf@debian.uxu> <874n09nz3c.fsf_-_@debian.uxu> <87a9a0ohfk.fsf@indiana.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1401577531 25231 80.91.229.3 (31 May 2014 23:05:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 23:05:31 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 01 01:05:26 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WqsL6-0006d7-Lx for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2014 01:05:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33201 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WqsL6-0003gJ-2E for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 May 2014 19:05:24 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!rt.uk.eu.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 41 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: SIvZRMPqRkkTHAHL6NkRuw.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:OeJ7979E4xBmajTC9YkNp45GaYY= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:205720 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:97989 Archived-At: Rusi writes: > Yeah I had a friend who staunchly believed that using > ed would clarify the thoughts and purify the soul. If you don't mind (no pun intended), why not put a little more effort on sensible quotes? (Look above.) [Actually I had to remove it, Gnus wouldn't let me send it.] But, the whole clarification of thoughts and purification of the (analytic) soul is something I have spent years on now. I'm pretty sure this can be achieved with Emacs, you don't have to dig deeper than that. Or you can keep that digging to Emacs, its enough, perhaps I should say... But one aspect that isn't mentioned that often is that it works both ways. A couple of years ago, I could do Windows and MS Access or whatever at day, and then get a quick fix of much-needed oxygen at night with the sweet Linux shell and Emacs. Now I refuse to do that, it is actually painful mentally and physically. When I see a programmer operate such a program, clicking on everything and all that, sticking his head into the monitor on the laptop (on the table) with a minimal keyboard, I have to remind myself he is actually doing sensible work - because to me it looks like it is some show at the zoo or circus. Ha-ha, no joke, it is lonesome at the top... :) > I sometimes get the feel that we emacs users look > like analogous cartoons to the current generation. Yes, it would be very, very interesting to know how those guys think about software and tools! I only know how I think - good question, how do they think?! -- underground experts united: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573