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From: Ashton Kemerling <ashtonkemerling@gmail.com>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: maplant2@illinois.edu, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs as WM
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:47:38 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vbprtbp1.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1XIUJy-0007bM-2O@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 15 Aug 2014 23:06:22 -0400")

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

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>
>     I completely fail to see how Rudel can be a substitute for Google Drive.
>     But then I don't know much about Google Drive.
>
> It is a server that lets various people edit the same document together.
> Previously called Google Docs.
>
>       Yet any solution based
>     on Emacs sounds like a non-starter, since most GNu/Linux users are not
>     Emacs users.
>
> Most users want WYSIWYG word processing, and that's why I want
> Emacs to provide a way to do that.

I really don't see that ever happening. Google drive is used heavily in
mixed editor environments, by people not familiar with more traditional
editors, and in areas where editing or viewing on a computer other than
your own (e.g. conference room machine or phone).

In many ways, Google Drive is a more flexible replacement for MS Office,
which in itself was used in a very different way from Emacs for 90%+ of
the userbase. I'm sure that many of us in this group are a bit over the
top using Emacs for everything, I for one read and write to this group
with gnus, I think there is a danger in assuming that this is the
standard use case. If Rudel is seeing marginal usage, then the only
question is whether that is because Rudel simply is insufficient, or if
it fundamentally isn't what the user base needs.

-- 
Ashton Kemerling



  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-17 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-08 20:35 Emacs as WM Matthew Plant
2014-08-08 20:51 ` John Yates
2014-08-08 23:04   ` Feng Shu
2014-08-11  8:19     ` Samuel El-Borai
2014-08-08 22:49 ` joakim
2014-08-11  1:44 ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-11  7:33   ` document sharing (was Re: Emacs as WM) Nic Ferrier
2014-08-11 14:36   ` Emacs as WM Stefan Monnier
2014-08-12  3:15     ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-12 13:59       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-13  3:58         ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-13 12:53           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-13 22:48             ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-14  2:43               ` Matthew Plant
2014-08-15  1:03                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-15  2:59                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-15 17:48                     ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-15 19:08                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-16  2:19                         ` Matthew Plant
2014-08-16  3:06                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-17 14:47                           ` Ashton Kemerling [this message]
2014-08-18  1:07                             ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-18  2:39                               ` andres.ramirez
2014-08-18 14:41                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-18 20:13                                   ` andres.ramirez
2014-08-18 20:54                                     ` Glenn Morris
2014-08-19  1:04                                       ` Ashton Kemerling
2014-08-19  2:45                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-19  4:56                                           ` Ashton Kemerling
2014-08-19  5:58                                           ` Tom
2014-08-19 14:56                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-19 15:21                                               ` Tom
2014-08-19 15:39                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-19 15:48                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-08-19 13:09                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-20  1:55                                   ` Alexis
2014-08-20  2:16                                   ` andres.ramirez
2014-08-21  2:41                                     ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-21  2:59                                       ` andres.ramirez
2014-08-21  6:15                                         ` Matthew Plant
2014-08-22  9:48                                           ` Garreau, Alexandre
2014-08-21 20:33                                         ` Josh

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