From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: andres.ramirez Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Metaproblem, part 3 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 06:24:36 -0500 Message-ID: <87vblqz6dn.wl%andres.ramirez@kipuamutay.com> References: <20141203142859.24393.98673@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <20141203193110.GF12748@thyrsus.com> <20141203215426.GA15791@thyrsus.com> <547FFFE3.9000100@cs.ucla.edu> <5480E5E7.4010803@cs.ucla.edu> <8megseikqh.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417778725 11030 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2014 11:25:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 11:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , Paul Eggert , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 05 12:25:17 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwr0e-0007P7-Ra for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 12:25:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49841 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwr0e-00066e-Dh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 06:25:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38615) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwr0T-0005tn-PJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 06:25:14 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwr0K-0001OV-Ey for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 06:25:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-yk0-x22f.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4002:c07::22f]:63541) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwr0A-0001Hs-S7; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 06:24:46 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-yk0-f175.google.com with SMTP id 200so197001ykr.34 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 03:24:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:message-id:from:to:cc:newsgroups:subject:in-reply-to :references:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=IZ77rLCsw8Ibic9NyjTLRTRca5m2uBA8PxvJgIWlXRc=; b=yPsPwGvDx5claFVL3u78u7Ywl9u1i4mQsfWvWLvKZJzdShXSspROLF32OXnpMdNSsF PTyj+NlM/9MfcrNKN8H1eFlBIYwfdhGI5rdZmeFQqUAqlnkmVSR3h2qSdPxMi3CULqxz rZb0VOn+bC2CMHzZ/vX+RoNzAI9VLqkcN4owivm3i2RD+ECM3KZ1GduSb1+fj4wibZbO oXDca8MZaT7y6PgJ9LUBqbsgHxruHdivvJYpCrt3bVRF5Gh25CV6xsrZIakESWwh/NQY QFnAGWihGtqzpN/9g1lPON6Tx/SzkwljT1a/0bbh/Sdf0+UDs+ebre/inrDCatb15dlH MXzA== X-Received: by 10.170.154.195 with SMTP id v186mr21647113ykc.29.1417778685380; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 03:24:45 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from tiahua.ryu.edu ([190.234.102.187]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id s29sm17776791yha.28.2014.12.05.03.24.43 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 05 Dec 2014 03:24:44 -0800 (PST) Original-Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel In-Reply-To: <8megseikqh.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Mailer: Wanderlust/2.15.9 X-Attribution: AR User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?UTF-8?B?R29qxY0=?=) APEL/10.8 Emacs/25.0.50 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4002:c07::22f X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178904 Archived-At: +1 to this. Thanks Stefan. and Thank You guys who keep this great product and an active community alive. I am always thinking about You guys, how do You organize your time, not knowing details about it. I think It is a very demanding task, besides Emacs you have Work, Family, and Life. Even Glenn, who was very worried lately trying to release emacs 24.4. I think that process tired Chong before. Best Regards At Fri, 05 Dec 2014 03:06:30 -0500, Glenn Morris wrote: > > > Stefan, > > You do a wonderful job maintaining Emacs. I can't think of anyone else > who could do it anywhere near as well, from the point of view of either > your technical accomplishments, or being so damnably nice to people... > Many thanks for all the work you put in. > > I can quite understand you being tired of it. > I'm sorry that I can't help with any of the specific points you raised. > (Well, I've been trying to stay out of arguments.) > I really hope people step up in response. Eg, there seem to be several > people interested in package-related matters. > > Yours really-worried-about-the-future-ly, > >