From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] Let input queue deal gracefully with up-events Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 20:27:15 +0100 Message-ID: <87vbjgxip8.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20150128145849.GA5107@acm.acm> <1422458343-12633-1-git-send-email-dak@gnu.org> <87egq4z2zr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423164452 28352 80.91.229.3 (5 Feb 2015 19:27:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 19:27:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 05 20:27:32 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YJS5L-0005n9-UK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 20:27:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44868 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YJS5L-0008U0-5i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 14:27:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58111) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YJS57-0008S7-Ol for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 14:27:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YJS56-0006bf-O8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 14:27:17 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54732) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YJS56-0006bP-LG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 14:27:16 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33675 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YJS56-0003Ol-1d; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 14:27:16 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8FC5DE6B62; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 20:27:15 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 14:11:46 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182474 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> . Judging from >> the number of wishlist items in the tracker including a patch, that does >> not appear to increase its chances of getting applied but at least it is >> then rotting in the proper place. > > What would increase the chances, would be you requesting write-access, > of course ;-) Basically you say that the patch submission and vetting process is fundamentally broken and useless and that people should ignore the developer list and bug tracker and just dump their code into the repository instead and see whether others want to fix it. In fact, you explicitly recommended this way of operation in . On the other hand, this list has recently seen considerable rebuke against a developer doing exactly that. I am not interested in the role of a black sheep so I prefer using the submission paths intended for untrusted developers. > Then you'd just have to wait for David to install your patch, As long as he cannot be trusted to act responsibly and not commit patches that need others to clean up after him, I cannot see it as desirable to grant him push access. He has been judged in clear need of vetting, and the tool for that are the mailing list and the bug tracker. -- David Kastrup