From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Thorpe Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Yum-like emacs package manager? Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 17:45:26 +0000 Message-ID: <87vbj4e6a1.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> References: <8738684tjf.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423936100 19174 80.91.229.3 (14 Feb 2015 17:48:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 17:48:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: torys.anderson@gmail.com (Tory S. Anderson) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 14 18:48:10 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YMgp8-00043J-IU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 18:48:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60688 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMgp8-0000yk-12 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 12:48:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47802) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMgme-0005lC-3X for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 12:45:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMgmY-0005H7-BP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 12:45:35 -0500 Original-Received: from outbound-smtp06.blacknight.com ([81.17.249.39]:46164) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMgmY-0005GK-6T for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 12:45:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.blacknight.com (pemlinmail03.blacknight.ie [81.17.254.16]) by outbound-smtp06.blacknight.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A6E8989BC for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 17:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: (qmail 1830 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2015 17:45:28 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO RTLaptop) (rt@robertthorpeconsulting.com@[109.78.205.190]) by 81.17.254.9 with ESMTPSA (DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 14 Feb 2015 17:45:27 -0000 In-Reply-To: <8738684tjf.fsf@gmail.com> (torys.anderson@gmail.com) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 81.17.249.39 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:102720 Archived-At: torys.anderson@gmail.com (Tory S. Anderson) writes: > Recently I've read various articles complaining about the emacs > package manager (packages.el, `list-packages') given the explosion in > user contributions to places like MELPA. Sure enough, especially with > emacs traditional async incapabilities, loading the package list and > searching through it is very cumbersome. > > It seems like a natural solution would be something like apt-get, yum > , and YaST, or maybe even cpan or ctan. Clearly much of what those > managers do is unnecessary; we aren't dealing with a full OS, as much > as we sometimes pretend we are. But in particular they perform search > and filtering in powerful and relatively fast ways that would be > wonderful to have in emacs. > > Does anyone know if there's something along these lines in > development right now? I don't know if it is. I've read some threads on emacs-devel about speed problems in package.el. Personally, I think it would be nice to use the already-existing find-packages interface for the ELPAs too. That interface has categories. It would be much faster because it would only require the data for one category at a time. That fact that M-x list-packages lists everything is an inconvience in most cases. BR, Robert Thorpe