From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 03:55:29 +0900 Message-ID: <87vbedvsv2.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <557F3C22.4060909@cs.ucla.edu> <5580D356.4050708@cs.ucla.edu> <87si9qonxb.fsf@gnu.org> <5581C29E.1030101@yandex.ru> <87r3p9fxm2.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87k2v0fiji.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20150619090225.GA2743@acm.fritz.box> <87fv5kfrfa.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83twtzhi9g.fsf@gnu.org> <877fqvfvby.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83fv5jh8ls.fsf@gnu.org> <874mlzf71d.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <558945C2.2010203@yandex.ru> <87h9pyxwrj.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <55897E75.10808@yandex.ru> <87y4j9w34v.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <558AD16F.7030208@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435172177 23022 80.91.229.3 (24 Jun 2015 18:56:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:56:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 24 20:56:10 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7pqA-0003Ld-Q0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 20:56:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52488 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7pq5-0003dI-9j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:56:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50100) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7ppg-0003dD-EM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:55:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7ppc-0006In-07 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:55:36 -0400 Original-Received: from shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.161]:37325) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7ppb-0006Gc-MK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:55:31 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D3281C3973; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 03:55:29 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 830091A2CA2; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 03:55:29 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <558AD16F.7030208@yandex.ru> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" ffb5abc8dc4e XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.161 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187492 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > We *are* competing here. Not with Editors, but with other languages and > documentation formats. I think Richard will tell you differently, that "competition" with other editors, languages, or formats is never a reason for Emacs to do something. Cooperation (portability or compatibility) often is, though. But you'll have to ask him to get an authoritative statement.