From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: (global-set-key) vs (define-key) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:11:32 +0200 Message-ID: <87vbeba9i3.fsf@web.de> References: <87wpyr3bqr.fsf@corbe.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435259527 8870 80.91.229.3 (25 Jun 2015 19:12:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:12:07 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 25 21:12:00 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8CZ5-0000yH-Oj for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:11:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57152 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8CZ4-0005sw-W6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:11:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41286) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8CYu-0005sr-1O for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:11:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8CYq-0007b8-Rg for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:11:47 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:47354) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8CYq-0007b1-KD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:11:44 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8CYn-0000i6-CS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:11:41 +0200 Original-Received: from ip-90-186-253-113.web.vodafone.de ([90.186.253.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:11:41 +0200 Original-Received: from michael_heerdegen by ip-90-186-253-113.web.vodafone.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:11:41 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-90-186-253-113.web.vodafone.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:JpCPOO9iG8y6LhzTd1lomvAI9x4= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:105176 Archived-At: Daniel Corbe writes: > I have a suspicion that (define-key) is not allowed to override global > bindings. Is that true? If so, what should I be using instead? What do you mean with "global-bindings"? Probably not bindings in `global-map', because `define-key' can of course bind keys in `global-map'. > (define-derived-mode router-mode eshell-mode "Router" > "Some key bindings and tools to make dealing with routers/switches > easier." > > (define-key eshell-mode-map "?" 'router-mode-help-key) > (define-key eshell-mode-map (kbd "C-z") 'router-mode-end-key) > (define-key eshell-mode-map (kbd "TAB") 'self-insert-command)) This will modify `eshell-mode-map', the map used by eshell-mode. This is probably not what you want. Better use a separate map, it set `eshell-mode-map' as parent map to inherit from it. Michael.