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From: Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Check for redundancy
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 22:03:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vbe7ob1c.fsf@nl106-137-147.student.uu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CAP_d_8XwUs_Rcw5N-GZ-_=7Ye-pG3D-YMDF2aLWJ-aXu+Kj4gA@mail.gmail.com

Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com> writes:

> There are still reasons to use Hungarian notation,
> because even the most strongly typed languages in
> common use are not strongly typed enough. (Haskell
> is or can be persuaded to be, but my employer is not
> ready to embrace Haskell.)

Good call :)

> 1: Every time I have to work with two or more
> coordinate systems that use the same axis names
> (typically X and Y). E.g. a mathematical plane and
> pixel coordinates relative to a window and/or
> a monitor and/or a workspace. Eventually I start
> naming variables starting with “wx, wy” for window,
> “sx, sy” for screen, etc.

Yes, however that falls outside of my definition of
Hungarian notation - I would do the same, only I would
probably spell out "window", "screen", and so on.
So in Lisp it would be window-x, window-y; in C,
win_x, win_y; in C++ perhaps Window would be
a class; etc.

> Without carefully labeling each affected variable,
> after a month of not touching the codebase, it
> becomes impossible to make modifications without
> breaking anything.

Indeed, I do long and descriptive names to the best of
my ability. I consider it a virtue. In C, when you
don't do that typically, I still do them longer and
more descriptive than most C programmers.

> Note that this isn’t the Systems Hungarian many
> people are used to, which encodes the actual type.
> It’s Applications Hungarian, where variables that
> have the same physical type get different prefixes
> after their conceptual type.

In so many words, I agree. Tho to my mind this is
common sense rather than any particular notational
system being adhered to.

-- 
underground experts united
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573




  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-28 20:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-24  9:29 Check for redundancy Andreas Röhler
2015-06-24 13:23 ` Drew Adams
2015-06-24 14:55   ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]   ` <mailman.5580.1435157733.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-24 18:21     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-24 21:10       ` tomas
2015-06-25  3:23         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-25  7:47           ` tomas
2015-06-26 15:01             ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-26 20:25               ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-06-26 22:48                 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-27 12:11                 ` Robert Thorpe
2015-06-27 13:12                   ` tomas
2015-06-27 23:02                     ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-28 11:07                       ` tomas
2015-06-28 15:50                         ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-28 16:35                           ` Yuri Khan
2015-06-28 20:03                             ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2015-06-28 21:38                           ` Robert Thorpe
2015-06-28 23:47                             ` Emanuel Berg
2015-07-02 23:37                               ` Robert Thorpe
2015-07-03  3:36                                 ` Yuri Khan
2015-07-03  6:41                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-03 11:48                                     ` Yuri Khan
2015-07-03 12:16                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-03 22:59                                         ` Robert Thorpe
2015-07-03  6:09                                 ` tomas
2015-07-03 19:56                                   ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                                 ` <mailman.6215.1435903802.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-07-03  6:38                                   ` Rusi
2015-07-03  7:54                                     ` tomas
2015-07-03  8:55                                     ` Loris Bennett
2015-06-24 23:31       ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-25  2:03       ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-06-25  2:07         ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-25  2:53           ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-06-25  3:21             ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]       ` <mailman.5603.1435188769.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-25  7:43         ` Stefan Nobis
2015-06-25  8:52           ` Andreas Röhler
2015-06-26 14:51             ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-26 14:39           ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]           ` <mailman.5719.1435329683.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-27  7:40             ` Stefan Nobis
2015-06-28  2:02               ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-28  2:40                 ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found] <mailman.6209.1435880273.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-07-03  8:40 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-07-03 20:04   ` Emanuel Berg

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