From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 11:54:19 +0200 Message-ID: <87vbawp4qc.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20150921165211.20434.28114@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <83fv27mt7r.fsf@gnu.org> <83wpvfix7i.fsf@gnu.org> <83fv23hr0z.fsf@gnu.org> <5605CB6B.4000102@cs.ucla.edu> <83twqhhf0g.fsf@gnu.org> <5606AC48.7090801@cs.ucla.edu> <83zj09fbzp.fsf@gnu.org> <5606C140.6090309@cs.ucla.edu> <878u7trwlb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <5606E995.2000102@cs.ucla.edu> <83si61ezxd.fsf@gnu.org> <2FCA0DAD-831B-4B0A-B948-9F31DE52B6F0@gmail.com> <87twqgrgtv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <56077423.6030800@cs.ucla.edu> <87pp14qvkf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443347681 17990 80.91.229.3 (27 Sep 2015 09:54:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 09:54:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Paul Eggert , emacs-devel To: Andreas Schwab Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 27 11:54:40 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zg8fC-0006Z4-CL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 11:54:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56745 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zg8fB-0005cm-Rg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 05:54:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44840) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zg8f1-0005cO-DR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 05:54:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zg8f0-0000BX-E5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 05:54:23 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55886) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zg8ey-0000BE-Vc; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 05:54:21 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41472 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Zg8ey-0003KV-Ca; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 05:54:20 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B55D6DF4A9; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 11:54:19 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Andreas Schwab's message of "Sun, 27 Sep 2015 11:47:35 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:190399 Archived-At: Andreas Schwab writes: > David Kastrup writes: > >> A fourth version of the C standard, known as "C11", was published >> in 2011 as ISO/IEC 9899:2011. GCC has substantially complete >> support for this standard, enabled with '-std=c11' or >> '-std=iso9899:2011'. (While in development, drafts of this standard >> version were referred to as "C1X".) >> >> It is not even accepted without using extra options. > > The latest release of gcc has C11 as the default standard. You just got to love the "creative editing" culture on this mailing list. First edit a posting into what you would rather want to reply to, then pretend the stuff you elided was not there in the first place. I was _very_ _explicitly_ _not_ talking about the "latest release of gcc" but rather the latest release of GCC in the most wide-spread production GNU/Linux distribution. Can we please stop this silly gamesmanship? It very much contributes to "discussions" going in circles. -- David Kastrup