From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Proposed new core library: alert.el
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2015 15:49:54 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vb9cusgd.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87twoxx6t9.fsf@lifelogs.com
On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 08:44:34 -0500 Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote:
TZ> On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 13:09:39 +0000 Artur Malabarba <bruce.connor.am@gmail.com> wrote:
AM> We can still use a plist if we want, as long as it comes after all of
AM> the format arguments:
AM> (message "Hi %s, I'm %s." 'ted 'artur
AM> :severity :urgent)
TZ> From experience, I think it's a bad programming practice to abuse a
TZ> function's interface (`message' mapped to `format' in this case) to
TZ> extend it.
TZ> OTOH Artur's approach makes it much easier to see what properties are
TZ> provided instead of hiding them inside the string.
After sleeping on it, I think the third and best way is to put the
properties first. Since `message' expects a FORMAT-STRING first, this is
unambiguous and the property pairs can be removed before passing the string
and the rest of the parameters down to `format'. In particular, it means
that partial application with `apply-partially' will work nicely because
the caller can pack the metadata at the beginning of the parameters. It
also degrades gracefully to the current call convention.
So, here's my revised proposal:
1) default message handler, most common case:
(message "simple string") -> no metadata -> Fmessage()
2) default message handler, with metadata:
(message :severity 'urgent "string") -> (display-warning ...)
3) installed alert.el message handler, most common case:
(message "simple string") -> `alert' or Fmessage() depending on alert.el rules
4) alert.el message handler, with metadata
(message :severity 'urgent "string") -> (alert "string" :severity 'urgent)
As far as the actual mechanics of the message handler function, I'll say
again that I think Artur's proposal makes the most sense.
Artur and others, let me know what you think.
Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-08 20:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-05 2:05 Proposed new core library: alert.el John Wiegley
2015-11-05 9:14 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-05 9:21 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-05 11:39 ` Sven Axelsson
2015-11-05 16:09 ` Random832
2015-11-05 16:24 ` raman
2015-11-05 16:33 ` Vivek Dasmohapatra
2015-11-05 17:09 ` joakim
2015-11-05 17:09 ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-05 18:21 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-06 22:31 ` T.V Raman
2015-11-06 21:38 ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-07 13:20 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-07 13:39 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-05 19:48 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-05 20:03 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-05 20:23 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-05 20:33 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-05 22:24 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2015-11-06 10:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-06 15:32 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-06 15:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-06 16:01 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-06 16:20 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-06 17:56 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-06 18:10 ` message-function (was: Proposed new core library: alert.el) Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-06 19:03 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-07 13:31 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-07 13:39 ` message-function Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-06 21:20 ` Proposed new core library: alert.el John Wiegley
2015-11-07 13:26 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-07 10:40 ` Elias Mårtenson
[not found] ` <m2io5e6d39.fsf@newartisans.com>
2015-11-07 12:28 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-07 13:09 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-07 13:44 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-08 20:49 ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2015-11-09 0:03 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-09 21:50 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-10 18:34 ` Posting new feature proposals on the wiki? (was: Re: Proposed new core library: alert.el) Nicolas Petton
2015-11-10 18:40 ` Posting new feature proposals on the wiki? John Wiegley
2015-11-11 16:14 ` raman
2015-11-11 16:43 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 17:35 ` T.V Raman
2015-11-11 23:27 ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-11 23:40 ` T.V Raman
2015-11-12 11:16 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-12 16:40 ` T.V Raman
2015-11-12 22:34 ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-16 16:52 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-16 17:03 ` raman
2015-11-06 15:50 ` Proposed new core library: alert.el John Wiegley
2015-11-06 1:47 ` raman
2015-11-06 2:16 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-06 9:47 ` Rasmus
2015-11-06 10:42 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-06 11:27 ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-11-06 9:50 ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-06 10:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-06 13:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-11-06 16:12 ` raman
2015-11-06 16:13 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-06 17:22 ` T.V Raman
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