From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A proposal for removing obsolete packages Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 14:41:51 +0000 Message-ID: <87vb7018ls.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1452523343 18880 80.91.229.3 (11 Jan 2016 14:42:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 14:42:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andrew Hyatt Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 11 15:42:22 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aIdfp-0003UK-ER for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:42:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54733 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aIdfg-000537-Eq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:42:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59844) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aIdfS-00052d-Pz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:41:59 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aIdfO-0008RS-GY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:41:58 -0500 Original-Received: from cheviot22.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.234.22]:56127) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aIdfO-0008RF-AQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:41:54 -0500 Original-Received: from smtpauth-vm.ncl.ac.uk ([10.8.233.129] helo=smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk) by cheviot22.ncl.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1aIdfM-0006w8-DK; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 14:41:52 +0000 Original-Received: from jangai.ncl.ac.uk ([10.66.67.223] helo=localhost) by smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1aIdfM-0007rm-21; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 14:41:52 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Andrew Hyatt's message of "Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:09:27 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 128.240.234.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:198026 Archived-At: Andrew Hyatt writes: > There might be even better solutions to this problem. I certainly have > not attempted to explore the entire space of solutions. Perhaps the > timing is too long as well - I wouldn't mind making things more > aggressive and instead removing all obsolete packages at the start of > each major version (meaning that an obsolete package would last one > major version or less). This probably would work itself out and obsolete > packages would tend to not be removed at the end of the major version > development cycle. > > Please let me know what you think. Having a policy that says "we can remove and will remove packages at the beginning of each new major release, unless some one really objects" would be a reasonable middle course. This would also give people the incentive to make the jump -- I still use longlines-mode, for example, because I haven't found a replacement for M-x longlines-show-hard-newlines in visual-line-mode. If it's not there, I could add it. Phil