From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Character folding in the pretest Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2016 21:52:08 +0100 Message-ID: <87vb6419mv.fsf@wanadoo.es> References: <87mvriuk3a.fsf@gmail.com> <8737t9ex1p.fsf@petton.fr> <83oabxyf71.fsf@gnu.org> <56B230D1.90902@gmail.com> <87bn7x4i4o.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87d1sc4rin.fsf@djcbsoftware.nl> <87vb6431rd.fsf@wanadoo.es> <56B37DF4.7000808@gmail.com> <87mvrg2zid.fsf@wanadoo.es> <56B38A15.90703@gmail.com> <874mdo2r8z.fsf@wanadoo.es> <834mdow86p.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1454619169 6292 80.91.229.3 (4 Feb 2016 20:52:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 20:52:49 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 04 21:52:41 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aRQtM-0002aA-T3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2016 21:52:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44005 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRQtM-000891-E7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2016 15:52:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54475) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRQt8-00088t-1Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2016 15:52:26 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRQt3-0006DK-1k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2016 15:52:25 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:36250) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRQt2-0006Ca-OG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2016 15:52:20 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aRQsz-00026y-VU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2016 21:52:17 +0100 Original-Received: from 1.red-83-38-42.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.38.42.1]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 04 Feb 2016 21:52:17 +0100 Original-Received: from ofv by 1.red-83-38-42.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 04 Feb 2016 21:52:17 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 1.red-83-38-42.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Kb6ZIF2SVYTY1LvlqP+Q+a6qyas= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:199333 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Óscar Fuentes >> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2016 20:46:20 +0100 >> >> It seems that the feature is not geared towards natural language, but >> for the cases where the user cares about how the character is composed. > > You misunderstood. Decomposition is just a tool that is used to > search for equivalent character sequences. Equivalent in the Unicode sense, right? >> As mentioned on my answer to Eli, this feature should default to off. > > AFAIU, that opinion is based on misunderstanding of what the feature > is supposed to do and support. If my understanding is correct now (the feature is some Unicode thing and not about how characters are used by people) I insist on defaulting to off, unless we renounce to make Emacs amenable to those who use a text editor for natural languages.