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Jackson) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24090: 25.1; toggle-frame-fullscreen breaks UI features in Gnome Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 12:01:30 -0300 Message-ID: <87vazoqyid.fsf@moondust.awandering> References: <87d1lyluey.fsf@moondust.awandering> <579B039C.6080007@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1469804556 14748 80.91.229.3 (29 Jul 2016 15:02:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 15:02:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 24090@debbugs.gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 29 17:02:26 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bT9Iu-00031h-L1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Jul 2016 17:02:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60014 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bT9Io-0005F0-LG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Jul 2016 11:02:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44442) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bT9Id-0005Ee-Dd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jul 2016 11:02:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bT9IY-0003Df-4H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jul 2016 11:02:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:53573) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bT9IY-0003Db-0q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jul 2016 11:02:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bT9IX-0004tb-QY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jul 2016 11:02:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. 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[24.138.64.179]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 97sm7339942ioi.12.2016.07.29.08.01.31 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 29 Jul 2016 08:01:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <579B039C.6080007@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Fri, 29 Jul 2016 09:19:56 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:121687 Archived-At: Hi Martin, At 09:19 +0200 on Friday 2016-07-29, martin rudalics wrote: > > FWIW Gnome's top bar and your gallery of windows should be of type > _NET_WM_TYPE_DOCK and are therefore shown _below_ your Emacs 'fullboth' > frame which should be of type _NET_WM_STATE_FULLSCREEN. So I don't see > a bug here. The first time I read this, I thought you were saying that Gnome's top bar was being displayed off the bottom edge of my monitor, but then I realised that "below" probably means what I think of as "behind"! With this piece of information things make sense. [Well, I'm not sure that they make sense from a UI point of view, but then not much in Gnome 3 does. However it seems that the behaviour is consistent with the design.] > Do other applications (e.g. Firefox after hitting F11) behave > differently when they are in fullscreen mode? Firefox is not a good choice for testing as it isn't a native application and is also buggy when it comes to interaction with the top bar. I tried with the Gnome file manager Nautilus but it doesn't seem to be capable of fullscreen display. (Which doesn't really surprise me as it is a perfect example of neo-Gnomishness: It doesn't do much of anything.) I had better luck with Gnome Terminal, and confirmed that the behaviour is as you describe. So it seems that this is simply user error (or a user misunderstanding). In using fullscreen mode, I used a feature that was not appropriate for my use case. (I simply need a feature that hides the title bar.) So please tag this `notabug' and close it. Thanks and best regards, N. [Off I go to try playing with my configuration to so see if I can make my frames slightly taller than my display so that the title bar is above the top edge of my monitor.]