From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?B?7Zmp67OR7Z2s?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Alternative mail providers Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 22:29:00 +0900 Organization: =?utf-8?B?6YeR6Zm1ICjsl7Dsm5DsnZgg66eI7J2MKQ==?= Message-ID: <87va0onrvn.fsf@delta.birch.chromebook> References: <20190218122758037230128@bob.proulx.com> <5b2967d4-2428-c475-c37c-021c52cdca40@gmail.com> <834l90jvri.fsf@gnu.org> <1ac0dbd6-5d0e-52f4-d34c-d89391e89f43@gmail.com> <87k1hv65gh.fsf_-_@fencepost.gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="211322"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 12 14:57:44 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h3hua-000srU-Nb for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 14:57:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53027 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h3huZ-0000t5-Ja for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 09:57:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56628) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h3hYg-0007L9-Oc for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 09:35:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h3hYf-0002gT-M2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 09:35:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=45868 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h3hYf-0002fj-Ch for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 09:35:05 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h3hYc-000Qrb-5L for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 14:35:02 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Operating-System: =?utf-8?B?4omqZGluZ+KJqw==?= -- The Gnus X-Gnus-Motto: In a cloud bones of steel. X-Debbugs-CC: soyeomul@red-october.yw.doraji.xyz Cancel-Lock: sha1:bVdyALQUasTf+ov7FkmiGfMPH3E= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:119614 Archived-At: Thanks, and... On Tue, Feb 19 2019, Amin Bandali wrote: > Thanking Eli, Bob, and everyone else volunteering their time to ensure a > smooth experience for users of lists.gnu.org, it may not be a bad time > to encourage people to move off of the few giant providers (which among > other things, continuously make things more difficult for everyone else) > and to try and run their own mail server for themselves and their family > and friends, or consider using smaller and less-hostile alternatives. > > Examples of =E2=80=9Csmall=E2=80=9D community-based projects include disroo= > t.org, > weho.st, and teknik.io. Other providers worth looking into may be > Tutanota, ProtonMail, or FastMail. Ultimately, though, I=E2=80=99d recomme= > nd > running your own if you can. Container-based solutions like Mailu [1] > or mailcow [2] with sane defaults could be very decent starting points. > > [1]: https://mailu.io > [2]: https://mailcow.email > > There are relevant threads on the Trisquel forum every now and then: > https://trisquel.info/en/forum/email-provider-riseupnet-or-disrootorg + yandex: few minutes ago i did test with yandex. they supports custom (sub)domain for email service as like google apps. it works for now + free cost! both imap(ssl:993) and smtp(starttls:587) works well with ^Gnus_^))// Sincerely, Byung-Hee. -- ^고맙습니다 _地平天成_ 감사합니다_^))//