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Contovounesios" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36826: 26.1; request: add variable value editing feature to the *Help* buffer Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 05:00:07 +0100 Message-ID: <87v9vljxrs.fsf@tcd.ie> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="136486"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: ndame , 36826@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 29 06:01:14 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hrwqW-000ZMk-37 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2019 06:01:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49108 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hrwqU-00051N-DE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2019 00:01:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55470) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hrwqQ-00051E-B6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2019 00:01:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hrwqO-0002YI-B6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2019 00:01:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:38683) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hrwqM-0002XE-Ka for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2019 00:01:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hrwqM-00071A-Fr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2019 00:01:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Basil L. 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E.g. the user >> presses e, the value pops up rendered in editable lisp format, the >> user edits it in place, presses C-c C-c and the variable is set to the >> new value. > > I think this sounds useful. I'm often rooting around not quite sure > what variable I'm looking for in the help buffers, and trying different > values, and having a command to make this faster would be nice. There's > `customize-variable', but I... just don't like it. (And besides, not > all variables are customisable...) There's also M-x set-variable, which inserts the current value of the variable when you type M-n. Perhaps all that's needed is for set-variable to also detect the variable described in the current *Help* buffer, and offer it as one of the default variables to set, following the value of variable-at-point (which is the current default). -- Basil