From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Shouldn't emacs print long lists with newlines? Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2019 16:28:47 +0200 Message-ID: <87v9v9can4.fsf@web.de> References: <87muglxxns.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="185134"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: ndame Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 07 16:29:13 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hvMwC-000m21-RL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2019 16:29:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41854 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hvMwB-0007J9-TG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2019 10:29:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40370) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hvMw7-0007In-C1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2019 10:29:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hvMw6-00030R-AK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2019 10:29:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.3]:49315) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hvMw5-0002zb-UT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2019 10:29:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1565188130; bh=GlMHaS8BwjNptGOfcj8/4IoR/8nZh8h/k8oLyMr9pwg=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=kGK/0pwOtGRlMoFsoWfL49+jiXwQMS6i81RU55YNxbvUQG0lms18CUVsbw3Wu0zL2 yJEyVH5g+atQGIMO3nlgi192lC/NMmT68NQ3AI4tB1MIimGPj1RRkcqtNq54vjCZ5M GUFtUZUxRznCr7+3slUKHrfxRyUkCX6nf4dDk7ls= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Original-Received: from drachen.dragon ([92.208.93.131]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb001 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M4qsv-1iGMtr0eoX-00z0hd; Wed, 07 Aug 2019 16:28:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: (ndame's message of "Wed, 7 Aug 2019 14:43:03 +0200 (CEST)") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:vMO5MF9GqGp47fMtSomnVzED4BLcUC9l41H2V6pDzbQH+vu0gtd O3n2ilcpbES9AojrhQvlq7Kmsuo0Bc6v3kQ0x4fh81aRcd/0B+kToyfEMA4PcvLxzAqt/we v2zFA3n1QcMkFifGgvXbm9YyEer4gTp2YI9E1tYo5EClvAL9z9oH3t5ffcIhCoxzVlYDTxR cR/QPCUZ2XN+pfUruUfEQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:iaxcvhyebII=:l9jJBz2qCW6aDMfqFjQNiV xNQeIZTskIhqDdB+FDEeJ/8Q/9YCLRNKg+DExUp80Jj8OlbM2lmLeAYQFNUNVhNSMxTMEOlJp DY2rXPcWrQG/QthZOm0V/0rQrmmtYF2IqLvzAfgcb1xyjCawaiU66jQhXOIiPvAVM5DxOocaT S7f7rAOlkVb5ZHumuRquNzZycrvokyizoIJQfuWxwjxR98KbSc1ef63xlSR/b2g4s3v4SJWi7 qyY2bg/0C/QW6RYbdMwTNLX4PsSJvAxK1FenOCJAcxj0jFYZbkpZMIrks2dhj8fXlRNJkyygl F9odAwITNdez2GHFh6SifHe7Lfq9GADpjY5Ss/JVKbCIvL75jO+nISQa/a5FaOvc9pldwbsFe toMlYIbuKuPODjpkQbuk9BcI/2PlNB8Ing4gl5ncngE7VZFF9efeZpAlYN/LlPBVRm6FBGmh4 W0DOmCSoG5jCj5KZ5Z81/tDm+FF2U3yFRO2XbySBMJu5uVyksK1nXv7+IjVcy71bpErvNQGmj yEl8R3pCQw9dEjSZFIS2s6VaJs5R0XtpHmRzAW27iRcvdwE14dB/tRllA2m7MlGqtNK2HofNA 1WTBCD6N+hcs7l97i+aJqkz2b8nMI5CwIIiyaTHSZenj3XZ+XVcekFsKBjqUZFz2tczrPXvd3 2FfOXn00zD12Lp+OK5IGmnbS0t2EXVh3rIR+EiclnBUPeFnnkkOuJ7F/6t0Jd6/NgFhIdsgRL fGqoYlqBYfur5OdhaoNMZhAmftq7SWGiXDqPl7sQgsrUVYxH2I/pNM44CJV2+L05BOFFyCPe X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.15.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:239222 Archived-At: ndame writes: > E.g. if the disaplayed list is longer than a screen line then it could > display an item per line. Maybe depending on a user option. A good heuristic is not easy to find: - When list elements are small (e.g. small integers), one item per line is annoying because the list fills the whole screen although it would fit in three lines or so. - Code is sometimes pretty printed. Adding newlines at bad places makes the result look quite strange, e.g. (defun () ...) - What if the expression is deeply nested (like code) and subexpressions already start near fill-column? - Not everything that doesn't fit into one line is a list. Should we handle other objects too? Michael.