From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#37769: global-set-key wrongly downcases the typed key (e.g. S-tab). Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 10:02:15 +0200 Message-ID: <87v9sli2ns.fsf@gnus.org> References: <20191015190726.GA6315@ACM> <87tv88kres.fsf@gnus.org> <20191017155844.GA4718@ACM> <87k192lpfz.fsf@gnus.org> <83tv868r47.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="144022"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: acm@muc.de, 37769@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 19 10:03:11 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iLjhf-000bLa-JH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 10:03:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50594 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iLjhe-0007Ag-4J for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 04:03:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37306) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iLjhX-0007AR-PG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 04:03:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iLjhW-0001Z8-Id for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 04:03:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:43066) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iLjhW-0001Yz-FS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 04:03:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iLjhW-0002BD-A6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 04:03:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 08:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37769 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 37769-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37769.15714721428064 (code B ref 37769); Sat, 19 Oct 2019 08:03:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 37769) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2019 08:02:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51887 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iLjgs-00025m-8E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 04:02:22 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:46152) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iLjgp-00024S-Lg for 37769@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 04:02:21 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iLjgl-0003Ke-NR; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 10:02:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83tv868r47.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 18 Oct 2019 10:11:52 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:169711 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I admit I don't understand what both of you think is not good or make > no sense. Emacs has been downcasing keys since day one, if the upper > case has no binding. The reason is to allow the user not to have to > release the Shift key too fast when typing fast. The complaint is that the interactive spec of global-set-key downcases whatever the user enters. M-x global-set-key RET C-S-o will bind C-o, not C-S-o. (Well, the case in question was about TAB, aka C-i, but...) This is surprising, and should be fixed, I think (and the patch suggested fixes this). I entered the discussion because I thought that this would be a bad change on ttys, because Emacs would then go ahead and bind the `C-S-o' key -- which then couldn't be used by the user, because there's no way to use shifted control keys under a tty. At least I don't think so? If this is the case, I think the original patch should be applied, but if we're running in an environment where `C-S-o' can't be entered (i.e., not on a gui), then the command should error out or give a warning, at least. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no