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From: Ivan Yonchovski <yyoncho@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: HaiJun Zhang <netjune@outlook.com>,
	38807@debbugs.gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de
Subject: bug#38807: [Feature request]: Support lisp workers like web workers.
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 20:14:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v9mrkmot.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <837dz79nvh.fsf@gnu.org>


Eli Zaretskii writes:

> Since the user waits for this job to finish anyway, why does it help
> to run some of this processing in a separate thread?

The user might not want to wait for the completion but he/she might want
to continue to type while the parsing is taking place. The effect is
that the typing feels slugish. IME with latest native json parsing this
is no longer the case for lsp-mode.


With my limited understanding of emacs internals I see 2 potential
solutions to allow writing of "lisp workers".

1. Start second(or multiple) elisp interpreter in the emacs process
which has thread local copy of all of the global data(buffers, data
allocation, etc). It may or may not have a gui attached to it. In
addition to that, introduce primitives for moving elisp datastructure
from the background thread to the main UI thread and vice versa
eventually by coping the original structure to avoid bugs.

2. Make the functions that create elisp datastructures threadsafe(or
some sane subset) and expose them to the dynamic modules.

Thanks,
Ivan





  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-26 18:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <aade4dc9-4992-4751-9706-9802389ff732@Spark>
2019-12-30  5:27 ` bug#38807: [Feature request]: Support lisp workers like web workers HaiJun Zhang
2019-12-30 15:23   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-30 15:40     ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-30 16:26       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-01  3:20         ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-01-01  3:37           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-01  3:57             ` HaiJun Zhang
     [not found]             ` <39f1e59e-08db-4862-98db-c31c3bcbab06@Spark>
2020-01-01  4:02               ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-01-01 15:32                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-03  2:05                   ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-01-03 13:38                     ` arthur miller
2020-01-04  5:59                       ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-01-04  8:11                   ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-01-04  9:07                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-04  9:10                   ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-01-01  3:06       ` HaiJun Zhang
2019-12-30 18:31     ` Michael Albinus
2019-12-30 19:19       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-30 19:22         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-31  0:40         ` HaiJun Zhang
2019-12-31  1:39           ` arthur miller
2020-01-01  3:47             ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-01-01 16:23               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-03  3:45                 ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-01-03  6:06                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-04  5:47                     ` HaiJun Zhang
2019-12-31 16:35           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-01  2:59             ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-01-01 16:21               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-03  3:18                 ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-01-03  6:02                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-04  5:26                     ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-01-04  9:00                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-21  2:24                         ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-03-21  8:16                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-22  1:12                             ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-03-22 14:32                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-24  4:22                                 ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-03-24 14:40                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-26 13:37                                     ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-03-26 14:44                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-26 18:14                                         ` Ivan Yonchovski [this message]
2020-03-29  2:41                                           ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-03-29  2:12                                         ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-03-25 16:44                                   ` Ivan Yonchovski
2020-03-25 17:05                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-25 17:21                                       ` Ivan Yonchovski
2020-03-26 13:49                                     ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-01-04  5:55                     ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-01-03  3:34                 ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-01-03 14:10                   ` arthur miller
2020-01-04  6:41                     ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-01-01  3:16       ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-01-01  9:14         ` Michael Albinus
2020-01-03  2:52           ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-01-03  5:59             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-04  5:19               ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-01-04  8:59                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-04  9:33                   ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-01-04  9:51                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-06  5:08                       ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-01-06 16:07                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-01 14:52   ` arthur miller
2020-01-03  1:49     ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-01-03 13:35       ` arthur miller
2020-01-03 14:26         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-03 15:14           ` arthur miller
2020-01-03 14:19   ` arthur miller
2020-01-03 14:39     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-30 12:32   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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