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From: Tomas Hlavaty <tom@logand.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: make a drawing with Emacs
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2020 11:48:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v9gtlvo0.fsf@logand.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200904092651.GD25869@tuxteam.de>

On Fri 04 Sep 2020 at 11:26, <tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:
>> > Nevertheless, independently of how you embed the thing syntactically
>> > (SVG even allows extending the DTD!) users will throw chairs at you
>> > whenever it looks differently than in Chrome/Firefox/Internet Exploder
>> > Version 0.95 or something. Be sure to duck quickly :-)
>> 
>> extending dtd?  interesting
>
> Yep [1]. "Interesting" is a polite way to put it. My take would rather
> be "@%#$&*!", but then, I was born in Spain, and some of us are said
> to have bad language ;-)
>
> My point is that those "norms" are built to leave bigcorps enough
> wiggle room to try to dominate the market by bending them. Otherwise
> the "norms" wouldn't be relevant in the first place.
>
> OTOH, no norms would be even worse. But one shouldn't be too naive
> to believe what's on the box. Just look inside :-)
>
> Cheers
>
> [1] https://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/extend.html#PrivateElementsAndAttribute

I see what you mean by extending dtd.

I am not sure I would describe it that way.  SVG is limited in
fundamental ways and foreignObject allows to escape that limitation.  I
have used that in html with embeded svg to get into html again.  It is
not perfect but better than not having that ability at all.  VML was
much better in that regard.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-04  9:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-31  3:05 make a drawing with Emacs Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-08-31  7:36 ` tomas
2020-08-31 20:29   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-08-31 20:49     ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-31 20:52       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-08-31 21:01         ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-31 21:04           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-08-31 22:48             ` Perry Smith
2020-08-31 23:09               ` Ulrich Deiters
2020-09-01  8:22           ` tomas
2020-09-01  8:38             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-09-01  9:04               ` tomas
2020-09-01 17:22                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-09-01 20:48                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-09-02  8:25                     ` tomas
2020-09-01 12:22             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-09-01 14:58               ` tomas
2020-09-01 20:45                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-09-02 21:10                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-09-02 21:51                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-09-03  1:26                     ` Leo Butler
2020-09-02 22:28                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-03  5:13                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-09-03  7:34                     ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-09-03 13:38                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-03 15:21                         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-09-03 16:59                           ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                             ` <87tuwen4mo.fsf@logand.com>
     [not found]                               ` <jwvimcuiqur.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2020-09-04  8:42                                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.2156.1599118473.2469.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2020-09-03 17:23                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.2212.1599153847.2469.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2020-09-03 17:28                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-03 17:41                               ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                                 ` <mailman.2217.1599154928.2469.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2020-09-03 17:45                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-03 18:23                                     ` Tomas Hlavaty
     [not found]                                       ` <mailman.2224.1599157422.2469.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2020-09-03 19:43                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-03 19:50                                           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-09-04  8:43                                             ` tomas
2020-09-04  8:59                                               ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-09-04  9:26                                                 ` tomas
2020-09-04  9:48                                                   ` Tomas Hlavaty [this message]
2020-09-03 17:55                               ` Tomas Hlavaty
     [not found]                                 ` <mailman.2221.1599155709.2469.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2020-09-03 18:04                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
     [not found]                                     ` <mailman.2222.1599156265.2469.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2020-09-03 18:09                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-03 18:29                                         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-09-03 18:32                                           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-09-03  7:14                   ` tomas
2020-09-03  8:03                     ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-09-01  8:32           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-09-01  8:58             ` tomas
2020-09-01  8:18         ` tomas
2020-09-24 15:09           ` Jean Louis
2020-09-24 16:53             ` Leo Butler
2020-09-24 20:14             ` tomas
2020-08-31 17:41 ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-08-31 20:30   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-08-31 19:40 ` Carlo Tambuatco
2020-08-31 20:33   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-08-31 20:56 ` Gregory Heytings via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-08-31 21:00   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-09-01  8:40     ` Gregory Heytings via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-09-01  5:37   ` Peter Münster

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