From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?B?R8O2a3R1xJ8=?= Kayaalp Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A modern-mode? Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 13:30:50 +0300 Message-ID: <87v9ge3tet.fsf@gkayaalp.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20650"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.2.0; emacs 28.0.50 Cc: Andrea Corallo To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 16 12:31:49 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kIUj6-0005Gn-Q4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 12:31:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33016 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIUj5-0003Ql-Ra for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 06:31:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35870) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIUiK-0002Y0-Qn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 06:31:00 -0400 Original-Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.194]:41689) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIUiI-00062m-Qt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 06:31:00 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 31.177.204.112 Original-Received: from localhost (unknown [31.177.204.112]) (Authenticated sender: self@gkayaalp.com) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7C0C540008; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 10:30:52 +0000 (UTC) In-reply-to: Received-SPF: none client-ip=217.70.183.194; envelope-from=self@gkayaalp.com; helo=relay2-d.mail.gandi.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/16 06:21:54 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255853 Archived-At: On 2020-09-16 10:36 +03, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: > The word modern has a negative meaning in that it implies that the > rest of Emacs isn't modern -- why would users ever want to switch of > "modern-mode" and use the un-modern Emacs? IMHO reading too much into names is not productive. =E2=80=98Modern=E2=80= =99 is a term that=E2=80=99s used fairly often in this context, and what to expect would = be obvious to those who would want to use such a mode: features common to contemporary text editors. What features to put in there could slowly brew until 28 is released. There=E2=80=99s no harm in starting out with Andrea=E2=80=99s opinions and = slowly refining it with feedback from within and from without. But if we keep yak shaving over names and particularities we won=E2=80=99t have anything to refine. And we=E2=80=99ve already doubled the traffic of Sep 2019... -- =C4=B0. G=C3=B6ktu=C4=9F Kayaalp / @cadadr / pgp: 024C 30DD 597D 142B 49AC 40EB 465C D949 B101 2427