From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?B?R8O2a3R1xJ8=?= Kayaalp Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: Emacs User Survey 2020 Results Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 08:39:52 +0300 Message-ID: <87v9daqkwn.fsf@gkayaalp.com> References: <27f2aad6-2c1e-1127-bce6-5e96a241db56@gmx.com> <87y2i6rd4c.fsf@gkayaalp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37542"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.2.0; emacs 28.0.50 Cc: =?utf-8?B?R8O2a3R1xJ8=?= Kayaalp , emacs-tangents@gnu.org, Jean Louis To: Adrien Brochard Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 10 06:40:46 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1knEh4-0009d6-1E for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 06:40:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54674 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1knEh2-0000ZI-Co for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 00:40:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33086) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1knEgK-0000Yu-Oc for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 00:40:00 -0500 Original-Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.201]:39643) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1knEgI-00087F-73 for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 00:39:59 -0500 X-Originating-IP: 31.177.206.57 Original-Received: from localhost (unknown [31.177.206.57]) (Authenticated sender: self@gkayaalp.com) by relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A63691BF203; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 05:39:54 +0000 (UTC) In-reply-to: Received-SPF: none client-ip=217.70.183.201; envelope-from=self@gkayaalp.com; helo=relay8-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: 7 X-Spam_score: 0.7 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_CSS_A=0.1, URIBL_DBL_SPAM=2.5 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:471 Archived-At: On 2020-12-10 00:39 +03, Adrien Brochard wrote: > Let's just chill about Matlab please. There was no Matlab involved here. > I'm 100% against Matlab. [...] > Also no Google forms involved. I used Jotform which is not free software > indeed, but much more compliant (HIPAA for example). But also correct > that nobody was forced and email answers were an option specifically for > that purpose. Yep, sorry for participating in off topic stuff when the center piece is your great work. Thanks for doing this, really enjoyed doing the survey and going through the results. One thing I really find interesting and maybe troubling is how dominant r/emacs is. Personally I generally enjoy r/emacs and r/orgmode, along with a couple other islands of humanity in the reddit cesspool (and the odd cool thread on other subs), but IMHO Emacs deserves a better place. I wonder if you have any insight into whether the reason r/emacs is represented so heavily is because most your respondents come from r/emacs or is it because r/emacs has become the de-facto place for Emacs community. If the latter, maybe it=E2=80=99d be nice to try to set up something like a Lemmy [1] instance for Emacs in order to replace that. [1] https://join.lemmy.ml/ -- =C4=B0. G=C3=B6ktu=C4=9F Kayaalp / @cadadr / pgp: 024C 30DD 597D 142B 49AC 40EB 465C D949 B101 2427