From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Easy configuration of a site-lisp directory Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 21:59:15 +0000 Message-ID: <87v941hz9o.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87y29cj65y.fsf@posteo.net> <871r6pu6pc.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="695"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 20 00:00:22 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mGq5G-000AXO-0J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 20 Aug 2021 00:00:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57896 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mGq5E-0001is-Fb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 19 Aug 2021 18:00:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49692) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mGq4P-000132-3F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Aug 2021 17:59:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:60493) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mGq4M-0005Qe-LE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Aug 2021 17:59:28 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02130240026 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2021 23:59:22 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1629410363; bh=nwtNyRIaa4bLlNAJVGpVLCNtVwurTQtgXIbpfgZMK0Q=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:Date:From; b=MtGgbyKz+jgX0Wft6ODuwsKZELc/uS6LM0J7Bk6FjZ2jubJ6xVI9UyYwDirkh2PJz EG+82mObY6SpQewG6q3VD4QERWwuzzR0WY9Dhrz6bz7w40H/wFYeh7ahtzxvsn0mQA jkoTFZk3w3uQCTpfNj6DUr3rHxVriFPV+ZYmnoSO2N61d4MC1btXsTdG2sBLmKFc81 5R+Y886oNcyam1UqVol4JJipurrUMkgT/JvUiYsXlhwkZZ0ZcjqIHa5lF/P/qTQsph MkO3moQqnNvv6a1Sd8IVQj6lbQkV/HNQUxyUkOr/eHfYdpHnP9Y8mWgj4iH+WGeCfZ CKZT5fP9LcyhA== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4GrJZd2q8vz9rxN; Thu, 19 Aug 2021 23:59:21 +0200 (CEST) Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mDMEYHHqUhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAp3GdmYJ6tm5McweY6dEvIYIiry+Oz9rU4MH6NHWK0Ee0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiQBBMWCAA4FiEEDM2H44ZoPt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwMFCwkIBwIGFQoJ CAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQtVrAHPRh1FyTkgEAjlbGPxFchvMbxzAES3r8QLuZgCxeAXunM9gh io0ePtUBALVhh9G6wIoZhl0gUCbQpoN/UJHI08Gm1qDob5zDxnIHuDgEYHHqUhIKKwYBBAGXVQEF AQEHQNcRB+MUimTMqoxxMMUERpOR+Q4b1KgncDZkhrO2ql1tAwEIB4h4BBgWCAAgFiEEDM2H44Zo Pt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwwACgkQtVrAHPRh1Fw1JwD/Qo7kvtib8jy7puyWrSv0MeTS g8qIxgoRWJE/KKdkCLEA/jb9b9/g8nnX+UcwHf/4VfKsjExlnND3FrBviXUW6NcB In-Reply-To: (Arthur Miller's message of "Thu, 19 Aug 2021 23:47:46 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:272689 Archived-At: Arthur Miller writes: > Arthur Miller writes: > >> Arthur Miller writes: >> >>> Philip Kaludercic writes: >>> >>>> Just wanted to ping this message to check if there is any interest in >>>> doing something with my initial suggestion? >>> >>> I do something similar as you do, but I use it only for some loose >>> files I write myself, and for some I download from emacs wiki etc. >>> >>>>> The fundamental idea is to have an easy-to-use ~/.emacs.d/site-lisp/ >>>>> directory where a user can clone any repository or create their own, >>>>> without having to manually add these to load-path, generate autoloads or >>>>> byte compile. >>> >>> I have a question: is it desirable to use a working git directory as >>> installed package? When I write my own files, I usually don't wish to >>> copy them over to my "lisp" directory which I autoload in Emacs, untill >>> I am done. Admittedly I started doing so before git has entered the >>> scene. Now I guess one can switch branches every time one works on a package >>> between some development branch and some stable, but isn't it a bit tedious? I do think this is useful, because it prevents confusion with xref. When I am working on my own packages/packages I am contributing to, I want M-. to jump to the actual definition I can work on, not a copy that might get lost. >> I just looked at package.el and realized that it is already possible to >> install directories, I wasn't aware of that fact. So the only extra work >> is to make it recognize local paths in a list package-archives list, in >> principle. I assume you mean package-install-file? > And I also realized that package-archives can already deal with local > directories. So everything is there. > > Users can already install from local repos. The issue is that this is just a repository, that might be helpful in some situations, but at the very least adds a redundant step (fetch the code, install the code) and always makes it harder to work on local repositories, because package-sources are unversioned. -- Philip Kaludercic