From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [OFFPTOPIC] ACM digital library (was: Lisp books) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 07:44:23 +0200 Message-ID: <87v922yeyw.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <87lf3aeasj.fsf_-_@zoho.eu> <87ilyb237u.fsf@zoho.eu> <87pmsjzhay.fsf@zoho.eu> <20211006070643.GB20835@tuxteam.de> <20211006125405.GA32757@tuxteam.de> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9241"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:DI5J0cNmwUwiiXA2/y489hovFI8= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 12 07:46:51 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1maAck-0002Ch-88 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 07:46:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46928 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1maAcj-0005BB-AN for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 01:46:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55668) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1maAb4-0005B3-4g for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 01:45:06 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:48738) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1maAb2-0001hq-DW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 01:45:05 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1maAaz-000Ac0-SM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 07:45:01 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:133741 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor wrote: > But the ACM is not a corporation, it's a professional > organization that's supposed to serve its members, such as > myself (hence the `.org` compared to Springer's `.com`). As I once thought when smoking weed under a bridge in Riga, "if the information is free it doesn't matter what services are sold around it". Yeah, that's right - that wasn't weed but ordinary tobacco and it was actually a police officer who said that so I HEARD, rather that thought it ... Nonetheless I agree ... I remember during my night black bike shop period - https://dataswamp.org/~incal/work-photos/stand.jpg - I remember reading the DIN number on a hand tool (DIN = Deutsches Institut für Normung = the German industrial standard which is used here as well) and thought, hey, it would be cool to read that! But the standard, i.e. the damn document as a PDF wasn't free of charge! They wanted money to just mail the document to you! Actually maybe the DIM pointed to an ISO ... that sounds likely. Still it's DIM. There were documents that were free of charge tho. So were the documents useful? Not the ones I saw :) -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal