From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#51361: 28.0.60; NS toolbar icons are too big and low res Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 19:18:04 +0800 Message-ID: <87v91kt4pf.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <87sfwr5fed.fsf@yahoo.com> <877de0uldn.fsf@yahoo.com> Reply-To: Po Lu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17018"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 51361@debbugs.gnu.org, Carlos Pita To: Alan Third Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 26 13:19:29 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mfKUL-0004CZ-8D for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2021 13:19:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35434 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mfKUJ-0006Kz-Fq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2021 07:19:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35084) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mfKTu-0006Gv-Cw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2021 07:19:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:33722) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mfKTu-0000HW-3I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2021 07:19:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mfKTt-0001la-Mx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2021 07:19:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Po Lu Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 11:19:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51361 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 51361-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51361.16352471066735 (code B ref 51361); Tue, 26 Oct 2021 11:19:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 51361) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Oct 2021 11:18:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45268 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mfKTK-0001kZ-2J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2021 07:18:26 -0400 Original-Received: from sonic307-56.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.190.31]:40395) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mfKTG-0001kH-2g for 51361@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2021 07:18:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1635247095; bh=svtRQi02oRiHlYz0kEzEjb4SagzBbEq54SlZQSeD4oE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=tp0eKh5lumCKP1TSnic+G16iw06ROz8sc8GYfMr8jX6XNmWKIAlW0dqREBfIrvjsnXvHZqPez3nvvqj02JH1cdATq1wr+lP9EwZgFVTHUKLjXUFU0gpAVtVqLocu1NOdhPg45J+zbxOXrYetjtwRXzxZzexBRQ4QKkQOHmy3qALxvKFjr4ic5n55ED3aLEMPhB9YgrY8qNOrO43WxaYgCKGnYk2HM2I1SgSnOaWHLZQfRCzzaBTNvZ+90XhHDGWdckAWPzZMuqsxIOHNpemNRGXNJQ3XZsinoRdk2WyVV+jxHnRJ/OMlnc3s6jEURQL6MrhSvIWhWQojTOGT83810g== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1635247095; bh=Wm2znyZzaeJ3uyWtzGC2/yWStfh5XqaNVn+9oUXjx5Q=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=d4JSc1ammlL2NNI+OMf4DkbAEYi2IUdre82qKlGwESu3aUTjr27g707TXPdtLqK8Z8/N/iXY9ba9NKbq7EqLhtfaMdIP8uvYzpps0ME7hHwD52iTIw1/7umRv88NQS6JgHflM5fnI1HiYWwdL5SzfGakU6MWPPCbAohtPzQyb6r+/OHjUz0KKRg+72rVYhIuHo1K5OanimMcXBYKUS3Wk4iD9Jm0ZOPNSoZpsmgATEgM2ey+fJXVTMjqSQUtZ4DPBiKFCzyrv1MVMXl0TJ0L1P1OZV3Wjegtxz16zZ46xhijGLcopsMHEghmApu8501J2XKxhzPL5I/lLkNpQ1YUNA== X-YMail-OSG: JZtWJEsVM1k7OkHJKTp_ZCqqrWxHA.wJLB3nnbK2YGozqt8OyzfTMdux5dl5lcj EKPrd4mvCJZiB8zHSbQspXmShw9Wf5fJy6E54eG3FdhaBXHJ.U1gtOfTuyXWGh9R06FrNYCqXckg 0qR7NFIcrJv4FtjDq_zcRzWDSOEm1NGZ9r_OqZeJ0_YWP4pZWs.lBCyZ37h9FU9O_jHA1XobFT7X ftvuvTIDCX4b7IrjRxwtTz7xNXEFdPFvr4fyk_kfBXGHwOKdhiOq5dGlj_5ZbqrxSjm4IJVYKgf0 h6IPbxu9TZ6npVsomJDE1nxSBExd3NFToVWiAGL0LsaRwVwbsDZzML8QYg8AFgfuIrr.huVCPA1. 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GTK scales up the size of the toolbar > according to the scale settings. Therefore GTK Emacs will have lores > icons that are scaled up by the scaling factor in its toolbar. > > This is identical to how cocoa and GNUstep handle it. > The exception is where GTK uses other, non-emacs, icons, which is > quite common. Yes, I'm aware of that. I made sure to clear x-gtk-stock-map and x-gtk-stock-cache before reaching these conclusions. What I was saying is that, to my eyes, the way GTK scales these icons results in less cognitive "blur" than the icons posted in the screenshot attached by the OP, which seems to implicate Cocoa performing some kind of "smoothing" operation on the scaled icon. Or perhaps this could be an effect of viewing the OP's screenshot, presumably taken on a high-resolution display, on my ordinary FHD display. Thanks.