From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Development Speed Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 08:16:56 +0000 Message-ID: <87v8zjy9l3.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87v8zk5d7t.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24012"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Po Lu , xenodasein@tutanota.de To: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 20 18:26:46 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mzMQw-00067k-3d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2021 18:26:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60512 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mzMQv-0007p5-04 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2021 12:26:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46756) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mzKX2-0004M5-PV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2021 10:24:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:53269) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mzKWs-0000xu-RF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2021 10:24:55 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DA70240027 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2021 09:16:56 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1639988217; bh=DgSO2+NVSMkz5A5Q//UrBGRKvJS0PS9LVV1SDBh4qis=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:Date:From; b=M+7HChxSvAhyoyxFzE+4APn/UsAOKr828yUjrSeYQqpXC2Z/oNrmaX5WNIV2hWNiU 9h0C3+AhWcr4yfRB+C2hJALVzayIK3POTH5R9xsdlr2A6hqMlEe2RaOcb+zQldceKq HAHMllO05RSJq6QsjrKUn5DUiR4wFqi53PTG3vOCtD1DyjCFt+92K/yXI3mwo3Wmlh 8nlR1fteK/M7rRokN9m9c1ucrcaKcy7fGMXYOgzQ+FgahxcmOSnfVMW+pZZkObkSNt e7SFAQ4RORTaA5irFXfoXkKZGLy6Imsw+17c2pL7DT2Zz1WITZqb9o4LZPCqy28kjK ufLY1EV9HUGpw== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4JHXVw3fQSz9rxd; Mon, 20 Dec 2021 09:16:56 +0100 (CET) Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; prefer-encrypt=nopreference; keydata= mDMEYHHqUhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAp3GdmYJ6tm5McweY6dEvIYIiry+Oz9rU4MH6NHWK0Ee0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiQBBMWCAA4FiEEDM2H44ZoPt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwMFCwkIBwIGFQoJ CAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQtVrAHPRh1FyTkgEAjlbGPxFchvMbxzAES3r8QLuZgCxeAXunM9gh io0ePtUBALVhh9G6wIoZhl0gUCbQpoN/UJHI08Gm1qDob5zDxnIHuDgEYHHqUhIKKwYBBAGXVQEF AQEHQNcRB+MUimTMqoxxMMUERpOR+Q4b1KgncDZkhrO2ql1tAwEIB4h4BBgWCAAgFiEEDM2H44Zo Pt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwwACgkQtVrAHPRh1Fw1JwD/Qo7kvtib8jy7puyWrSv0MeTS g8qIxgoRWJE/KKdkCLEA/jb9b9/g8nnX+UcwHf/4VfKsjExlnND3FrBviXUW6NcB In-Reply-To: (xenodasein's message of "Mon, 20 Dec 2021 05:16:04 +0100 (CET)") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282519 Archived-At: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." writes: > Quoting: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2021-12/msg01900.= html > From: Po Lu > Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 08:31:18 +0800 > >> and why should we use C17?=C2=A0 What advantages does it hold? > > This is a legitimate question we can assess. > Features like restricted pointers could improve performance? > But I think the better question is what is the excuse for striving not to > keep up with the latest language standard? (Assuming someone wants to wor= k on > it.) I think the main issue is that by raising the language standard, you break compatibility with systems that do not provide the compiler yet. --=20 Philip Kaludercic