From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2022 08:28:27 +0000 Message-ID: <87v8z1p6j8.fsf@posteo.net> References: <897ED591-43BC-4029-912A-917E5E9F6930@gmail.com> <83mtkeefmt.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8z2o90o.fsf@yahoo.com> <87fsq617rt.fsf@139.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20703"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: nanjunjie@139.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 03 09:30:08 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n4IjI-0005A6-2e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 09:30:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44872 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4IjG-0004Tk-Qb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 03:30:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42176) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4Ihl-0001fg-R2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 03:28:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:40447) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4Ihj-0006IQ-S1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 03:28:33 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99536240027 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2022 09:28:29 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1641198509; bh=FqqgwUpzGBnnZjK0+FH6DpsfrkqSQaK67TBotpg4QA4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:Date:From; b=iLuS3Uslmqvq+2CRQIHZM9lppOfOZPTlaZQLvXUOsOgmwK53LdTyzehBljv/IW6ID YIJykKUJAt4bT5hIVKC51e5dFscaPjohbVpDulUyf30S6zFKz2GaqBIhyqHvu/ByH4 nk5J4cHA2MmAHIf2223lXlGA+HOmPRaubl0qZi+Ap2hqJ9GYAM+IQhlbYRgxjZTrz/ XDv+559ntETDcFedJAfkgWiO/4G/POLnGCeXjZ+5uepfo8cRyH1qGwuiwgy/6jMMl5 NzdPOfUr16j3ytVYe4rolhNlvHYtfO9FXetOp1bJTNOpp0VB147NZse0S+IjMIEAGt KW8zzZB94HspQ== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4JS85m3KDlz6tnY; Mon, 3 Jan 2022 09:28:28 +0100 (CET) Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; prefer-encrypt=nopreference; keydata= mDMEYHHqUhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAp3GdmYJ6tm5McweY6dEvIYIiry+Oz9rU4MH6NHWK0Ee0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiQBBMWCAA4FiEEDM2H44ZoPt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwMFCwkIBwIGFQoJ CAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQtVrAHPRh1FyTkgEAjlbGPxFchvMbxzAES3r8QLuZgCxeAXunM9gh io0ePtUBALVhh9G6wIoZhl0gUCbQpoN/UJHI08Gm1qDob5zDxnIHuDgEYHHqUhIKKwYBBAGXVQEF AQEHQNcRB+MUimTMqoxxMMUERpOR+Q4b1KgncDZkhrO2ql1tAwEIB4h4BBgWCAAgFiEEDM2H44Zo Pt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwwACgkQtVrAHPRh1Fw1JwD/Qo7kvtib8jy7puyWrSv0MeTS g8qIxgoRWJE/KKdkCLEA/jb9b9/g8nnX+UcwHf/4VfKsjExlnND3FrBviXUW6NcB In-Reply-To: <87fsq617rt.fsf@139.com> (nanjunjie@139.com's message of "Sun, 02 Jan 2022 23:23:18 +0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -24 X-Spam_score: -2.5 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.5 / 5.0 requ) DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284006 Archived-At: nanjunjie@139.com writes: > For me an emacs user, `customize` itself is a setup wizard, it does not > need another setup wizard to customize the customization. Or once the setup > wizard came out, we need to figure out how to customize the setup > wizard, and we would enter an endless loop. I disagree, the setup wizard could be seen as a "tour" of customizable options, consciously designed to guide the user into the relevant options that are worth paying attention to. > Po Lu writes: > >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >>> I didn't yet try the package, but IMNSHO it makes the most sense in >>> core, and in that case it should also be started automatically for new >>> users, or at least suggested to them upon first invocation. >> >> Starting it automatically is too much, but having it on the splash >> screen would be great. >> >> Thanks. > > > -- Philip Kaludercic