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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284162 Archived-At: >>>>> On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 10:17:46 -0500, Stefan Kangas said: Stefan> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> What would that mean for users that currently save their >> customizations through Custom in .emacs? Would it mean that the next >> time they save customizations, they will be written to another file >> and removed from .emacs? Stefan> Good question. Stefan> I imagine that we would just leave things in place for such use= rs. It Stefan> would be slightly jarring to have things moved around behind th= e users Stefan> back. Stefan> But maybe it would be a good idea to provide a migration comman= d to Stefan> conveniently move things. Stefan> Or we could prompt the user about moving it. To avoid being an= noying, Stefan> we could record the answer, and not prompt again if the questio= n was Stefan> already asked. Didn=CA=BCt XEmacs have a "would you like to move .emacs to .xemacs/init.el" startup thingy? It=CA=BCs been a while since I used XEmacs. *If* we did this, we=CA=BCd have to be very careful when it got triggered, lest hordes of pitchfork-wielding users descend. Robert --=20