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From: Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 56323@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#56323: 29.0.50; [v2] Add new customisable phonetic Tamil input method
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2022 15:03:42 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v8sfj1u1.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83czendhee.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 02 Jul 2022 11:54:01 +0300")

[சனி ஜூலை 02, 2022] Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>> From: Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com>
>> Cc: 56323@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2022 14:10:07 +0530
>> 
>> > The only remaining issue, AFAIU, is why string-lessp is not good
>> > enough for sorting within each sub-list.
>> 
>> It is not good enough for each sub-list for the same reason: the order
>> produced by string-lessp is not the same as the actual order.
>
> So, then please explain what should be the "correct" order within each
> sub-list.  Is the correct order within each sub-list in the ascending
> order of the codepoint?  If not, what is the correct order?
>

The correct order is not the ascending order of the codepoint, the
correct order is

க ங ச ஞ ட ண த ந ப ம ய ர ல வ ழ ள ற ன

and their respective codepoints are

2965 2969 2970 2974 2975 2979 2980 2984 2986 2990 2991 2992 2994 2997 2996 2995 2993 2985

>> I will try to explain the situation using the regular English alphabets
>> and the extra letter þ (which was used in place of "th" AFAIU).
>> 
>> The core English alphabets are a-z then we have some extra alphabets
>> like the þ above.  When we have a list containing _both_ a-z and þ, the
>> order produced by string-lessp is wrong.
>> 
>> When I did as you suggested and broke the list into two -- a-z and þ --
>> and sorted the sub-list that only contained a-z with string-lessp, the
>> sorted sub-list was not in the right alphabetical order i.e., instead of
>> "a b c d ..." it was "a c b d ..."
>
> That's not what I see:
>
>   (let ((letters '("a" "b" "r" "x" "z")))
>     (sort letters 'string-lessp))
>    => ("a" "b" "r" "x" "z")
>
> Please show an example where characters a-z are sorted by string-lessp
> in the wrong order.

I didn't mean literally that string-lessp produced the wrong list for
a-z, I tried to draw an analogy with a hypothetical scenario where a-z
sorting did not work with string-lessp.  This hypothetical scenario is
the actual in case of the Tamil consonants.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-02  9:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-30 12:13 bug#56323: 29.0.50; Add new customisable phonetic Tamil input method Visuwesh
2022-06-30 14:08 ` Visuwesh
2022-06-30 15:53 ` Visuwesh
2022-07-01 12:59 ` bug#56323: 29.0.50; [v2] " Visuwesh
2022-07-01 13:01   ` Visuwesh
2022-07-01 13:22   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-01 13:47     ` Visuwesh
2022-07-01 14:06       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-01 14:30         ` Visuwesh
2022-07-01 16:09           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-01 16:37             ` Visuwesh
2022-07-01 18:16               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-02  4:02                 ` Visuwesh
2022-07-02  6:35                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-02  6:54                     ` Visuwesh
2022-07-02  7:17                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-02  7:35                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-02  7:46                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-02  8:11                         ` Visuwesh
2022-07-02  8:29                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-02  8:40                             ` Visuwesh
2022-07-02  8:54                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-02  9:33                                 ` Visuwesh [this message]
2022-07-02  9:38                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-02 10:31                                     ` Visuwesh
2022-07-02 10:46                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-02 12:08                                         ` Visuwesh
2022-07-02 11:05                                       ` समीर सिंह Sameer Singh
2022-07-02 12:04                                         ` Visuwesh
2022-07-02 12:23                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-02  6:58               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-02  7:58                 ` Visuwesh
2022-07-02  8:39                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-02  9:28                     ` Visuwesh
2022-07-10  3:56                       ` Visuwesh
2022-07-10  5:34                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-10  6:42                           ` Visuwesh
2022-07-10  7:32                             ` Visuwesh
2022-07-14  6:34                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-14  7:11                                 ` Visuwesh
2022-07-02 12:15             ` Visuwesh
2022-07-03  3:57               ` Visuwesh

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