From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 57693@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#57693: 29.0.50; Is there a more reliable version of `char-displayable-p'?
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2022 17:31:06 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v8puw945.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <831qsjboy0.fsf@gnu.org>
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> Yup. And I am asking if there is such test exposed to Elisp. Display
>> code certainly knows when some character cannot be displayed and must be
>> replaced by its hex code.
>
> The display engine only knows it retroactively, when it tried and
> failed to display a character.
The situation is similar to `string-pixel-width'.
Trying to display and checking retroactively should be a valid option,
unless I miss something.
>> This is not great. I am really hoping that we can make nicer defaults
>> when possible and only fallback to something robust when fancy version
>> cannot be used.
>
> I'm not sure I understand how this could be done even in principle.
> The conditions and restrictions you put forward can only be tested by
> trying to display the character at its specific place in a specific
> buffer and a specific window (because all of those can potentially
> affect the face and thus the font). We can code a function that
> emulates the display, but such a function can only work if the
> offending character was already inserted into its place and is part of
> buffer text. Is this something you'd consider good enough, to have to
> do something like
>
> insert the character
> call the new magic
> if the new magic says NO-CAN-DO
> replace the character with something else
>
> If the above is acceptable, I think it can be done, although it would
> not be very useful in other situations. But if you want to know the
> answer before you insert the character, I don't think we know how to
> satisfy your requirements with 100% accuracy. At least I cannot see
> how it could be done; maybe someone else will.
The described approach should be acceptable.
What I have in mind is a function like
(insert-displayable '("fancy version" "backup"))
The function will try to insert "fancy version" first; check if all the
characters are displayable, and replace the inserted text with "backup"
if not.
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Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-09 13:25 bug#57693: 29.0.50; Is there a more reliable version of `char-displayable-p'? Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-09 13:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-09 22:25 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-09-10 6:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-10 6:06 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-10 6:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-10 6:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-10 4:48 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-10 6:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-10 6:37 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-10 7:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-10 8:17 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-10 8:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-11 9:31 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2022-09-11 9:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-11 10:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-12 5:46 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-12 11:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-13 1:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-13 11:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-14 1:52 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-14 2:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-17 19:18 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-02-17 19:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-17 22:31 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-02-18 6:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-18 9:00 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-02-18 9:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-18 11:32 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-18 11:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-19 11:31 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-19 11:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-19 12:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-19 12:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-19 14:19 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-19 15:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-18 11:35 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-18 12:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-12 5:24 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-09 13:46 ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-09 22:25 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-09-10 4:56 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-10 6:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-10 4:53 ` Ihor Radchenko
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