From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Running emacs without any customisation Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 01:30:37 +0200 Message-ID: <87v8orz276.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33271"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:MBrm0vhQlQz9M0MJwyaiGtYWWrw= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 11 09:22:01 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oi9aS-0008OY-7e for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2022 09:22:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51154 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oi9aQ-0001eg-Nc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2022 03:21:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48674) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oi2ER-0002cy-Ji for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2022 19:30:48 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:58294) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oi2EO-0006W1-VO for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2022 19:30:47 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oi2EN-0003dR-M4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2022 01:30:43 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 03:17:50 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:139804 Archived-At: Thibaut Verron wrote: > First, even with an empty .emacs, just running emacs might > not the equivalent of "emacs -Q", as it will still load the > system-wide configuration files (the "site-elisp"). Indeed, what you can do if you don't want to read any configuration (except the configuration that says don't read any configuration) is to either use `load-file' in .emacs to the real (additional) configuration, and then comment those lines out as desired, _or_ do something else to the extent of reading or not reading the code, for example just gobble everything, not right now perhaps but in a `while'. (while nil ... ; brilliant code here ) > Second, running emacs with an empty .emacs should not result > in a black background Why not? It's more ergonomic. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal