From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#59005: 29.0.50; Package transient installed as dependency despite it being built-in Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2023 04:38:05 +0100 Message-ID: <87v8k8lvmq.fsf@web.de> References: <87iljvkdnp.fsf@miha-pc> <871qprm7j7.fsf@bernoul.li> <87sfi5lrzx.fsf@bernoul.li> <87357e1erf.fsf@web.de> <87357dd1rn.fsf@bernoul.li> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18063"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: 59005@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas , miha@kamnitnik.top To: Jonas Bernoulli Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 11 04:39:21 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pQgjR-0004Sl-4C for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Sat, 11 Feb 2023 04:38:06 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87357dd1rn.fsf@bernoul.li> (Jonas Bernoulli's message of "Fri, 10 Feb 2023 15:38:04 +0100") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:O5cKivTsKErg6KWwAgckzzxB5WLnyltUDqghl9AGwbZ52Ri7l5E m5qSeI4VsxUnljEckOqhLDpK3EZlc3VkCh2sYRue/1qseKitot7I3HKCffj7rxA1wR+j0uE RDM/Xdnq9tRgLp/N+2qs/xOC24AqqDb9kX5wSni04v4umsMHAkKCuf7NTwReFh+99nWD6/G ajRfzsWfTjeWsP4w2ZJMQ== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:/mn8dcU3mzU=;iRsvQoqt3+UfUNREV4jVwSLo+tD x1RJVVZ8FmVPlQttgIjqsoRs4GW3tFVV21GxG7rQ6r8k1LdGej68Gcduj9LucJlINSTYPupWN 2h44ZZ/cAKf5ZRNtl6rP5WKhbPN3AhlAWqTVE9SgJUbTxrDl5qzNKd5+gejrpKIdCvUdptpJz 78TmMVRPzWyQC8dtC/BV1Wsh0NKfMBwKmVLjdJW9VhydVwH2NKkSoc+V12YvQVInO7YGbNC0F IANlY++X/XCHhMHwW4GrweqR5eWm0Y/25NS9T3VvI1zrO83DDUuUb3MuOGfU2f8FAq9uE820F qDMPRe/yjAhSSLtExf2MSJ3qUWpWZxheW8pjUaP6sI3Z1TTbviY4zVrQ5fgRsDdlXbotpNQoR KvTqYe++W6YLnXAAY9dPx4+seEW1aFcWypHBy6lAlIJFgZTCTLhcwgZbwOumSXT9UaoIHo/Aa F64RTxzLissRH9mcBxJ+dk7Ay+pDINWvhxtEkKpHp1Hnkg68Phh06QShM/SibY2JAadKNpKQ/ STk6Z1wGjqP3rgtdCeQV8TQodrvcc7a0OALbH0Qpwr1ix/H+c3ZF/Y9Tiz37zLanqzNMwLCXV uaPaPXEqub6sGOCQQBh0zzIMnBew/cPNvjzjmkvfSytJ3MrsLcOOq/CXbh+UGgSPB4RPEHyf/ PsxbprRBBBtOm6JBBrTv2z2jxBGI6Nu6N9MhrCGpUnLr1AyatNFLNvhsmSUU/lUZjEDS6vgk0 6VjsTRciFnAUWQwK/MRTrcH6y/0sCp2rndssVBE5oUdK3Ql7JlbJMAmDhx9kVM9NuYp+1wDX X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:255311 Archived-At: Jonas Bernoulli writes: > > I ask because "transient" rings a bell (it is also a package that is > > often related to trouble in my scenario). > > What kind of trouble? Packaging trouble I assume. Yes: when updating packages from the package manager, dependencies are sometimes in effect deleted instead of updated. This is often "transient", but that could be coincidental (because it gets regular updates maybe). No one seems to care about this problem so far. Looking at package.el I don't see a recent change that looks like it could have such an effect. But since I did not get any help so far, I can only ask around... Thanks, Michael.