From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New Package for NonGNU-ELPA: clojure-ts-mode Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2023 11:34:42 +0000 Message-ID: <87v8cuqg8d.fsf@localhost> References: <87il9kksqz.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87o7j99304.fsf@dfreeman.email> <97224c4f-fad4-ae01-46c1-5755d97d9a92@gutov.dev> <87fs3ztq38.fsf@localhost> <87cyz3qwba.fsf@posteo.net> <8734zztmiz.fsf@localhost> <87sf7zqs3l.fsf@yahoo.com> <87il8vs6e7.fsf@localhost> <87jztbqrc9.fsf@yahoo.com> <877cpbs5a0.fsf@localhost> <87fs3zqqgj.fsf@yahoo.com> <874jkfs4o0.fsf@localhost> <87y1hroz47.fsf@posteo.net> <83cyz2ctp0.fsf@gnu.org> <87msy6rzeg.fsf@localhost> <83wmxab0ym.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27573"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: dmitry@gutov.dev, jschmidt4gnu@vodafonemail.de, philipk@posteo.net, luangruo@yahoo.com, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 01 13:34:39 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qc2QB-0006xY-Gp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 13:34:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qc2Pp-0008V6-8i; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 07:34:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qc2Pj-0008Na-JP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 07:34:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qc2Pg-0004ox-Is for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 07:34:11 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07EA024002B for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2023 13:34:06 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1693568046; bh=Zmc7IK/5U0vC1PwcBU7SnkW4/XhoKYnVMPXfjlMqw1w=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=UfTZhfJdrs0HWP82oOXMp86ps1Wauh5BZN+sR79qtYORXjNdaAr++1mcRVm/khtMX 1vbfzmn6va5PaItzpg95JdQvRQu3efHaOV3sQr6H2I5leoC9H0AzBBLxKa725E+0rN Y8ZUIgOlp6skzzNGsnja/ldM0AsZsrT+j5RD9Zti06rQvSKsTdP9maLpWqPJ9gMEru WHqtwgcmWJSJBFTPYuxpMmBvjKdOryooxvMy9wgr8RxNRzzoq7cpiZZVJh8vUcY3+j WlpFUJiK08mbTe4r/RBz+MlPlPnX2gHG4zfdiF2qOjvQcKjVf5dHLPqUJdrNHVWRGS +tneV1LBHu29w== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4RcbXD6WSFz9rxG; Fri, 1 Sep 2023 13:34:04 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83wmxab0ym.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309764 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Confirm. I use Github mostly via email, exactly how you described. >> The annoying thing is inability to open new issues via email, though >> "forge" package allows to do it from Emacs. > > Is that all that annoys you about GitHub's email? What about the fact > that you get a lot of useless notifications that cannot be selectively > turned off? I can turn them off selectively in my MUA. IMHO, this is not any different from how I approach mailing lists - most of the discussions on ML are not interesting to me and I simply filter them out. I think Gnus scoring is relevant (although I use different approach). > ... What about the fact that most email messages have zero > context, so you have no idea to which part of the discussion they are > responding, unless you keep everything in mind? That's not about Github. That's about discussion conventions. At least some repositories make use of message quoting in the messages to clarify what each message is replying to. This tends to happen in more complex issue discussions with multiple points being discussed. > Users of GitHub don't write their posts thinking about email > recipients, they evidently assume that everyone is looking at the > discussion via a Web browser. Therefore, the email notifications are > no more than indications of "something happened", they don't support > intelligent and efficient participation in the discussion without the > need of reading all of it via the browser. I do not find much difference when reading Github discussion from browser vs. from email. They are equally flat in both cases, sometimes creating confusion. It is also not too different in IRC, IMHO; and, as IRC shows, it can be solved, even given the flat structure limitations, using appropriate community conventions. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at