From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: joakim@verona.se Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: Shrinking the C core Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2023 16:29:43 +0200 Message-ID: <87v8ce6t9k.fsf@tanaka.verona.se> References: <83jzsvppv8.fsf@gnu.org> <878r9b8b2a.fsf@tanaka.verona.se> <83pm2nnppx.fsf@gnu.org> <87zg1r6oox.fsf@tanaka.verona.se> <871qf2fyry.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1085"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: emacs-tangents@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 13 16:30:10 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qgQsc-000Ad9-H4 for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 16:30:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qgQsR-0008LE-C8; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 10:29:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qgQsL-0008In-QZ for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 10:29:56 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.outgoing.loopia.se ([93.188.3.37]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qgQsI-0001Gj-0E for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 10:29:52 -0400 Original-Received: from s807.loopia.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by s807.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063B12FAD21D for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 16:29:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from s979.loopia.se (unknown [172.22.191.5]) by s807.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9232E29DA2 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 16:29:44 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from s898.loopia.se (unknown [172.22.191.5]) by s979.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA57C10BC3A0 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 16:29:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amavis.loopia.se Original-Received: from s981.loopia.se ([172.22.191.5]) by s898.loopia.se (s898.loopia.se [172.22.190.17]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id y33a5Ya7ZqXQ for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 16:29:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Loopia-Auth: user X-Loopia-User: joakim@alicantealmeria.se X-Loopia-Originating-IP: 193.234.148.196 Original-Received: from tanaka.verona.se (unknown [193.234.148.196]) (Authenticated sender: joakim@alicantealmeria.se) by s981.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F30A622B16DC for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 16:29:43 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <871qf2fyry.fsf@dataswamp.org> (Emanuel Berg's message of "Wed, 13 Sep 2023 07:05:53 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=93.188.3.37; envelope-from=joakim@verona.se; helo=smtp.outgoing.loopia.se X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:1078 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > joakim wrote: > >>>> Gnus refreshes slowly, maybe that could be helped with >>>> concurrency, but it could also be helped with more async >>>> work in gnus. >>> >>> Concurrency can help you keep reading messages while Gnus >>> refreshes in parallel, but it won't easily help you refresh >>> faster, unless someone comes up with a way of collecting >>> the update in parallel chunks (in which case they should be >>> able to do that today with the emacs-async package, >>> I think). >> >> Yes, one of these days I should really try one of the >> gnus-async hacks. > > I've heard many times that Gnus is slow, but never > experienced it. I have 6 servers and 26 groups. About 700 groups, a mix of nnimap, and nntp. nnimap is slowest. But its not all that slow, and Thunderbird would be equally slow I think, and thunderbird doesnt come close organizing all thouse groups, thats why i stay with gnus. > > How many do people have, for it to get slow? > > Or is it slow for some other reason? -- Joakim Verona joakim@verona.se