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Sun, 24 Dec 2023 16:00:26 +0100 In-Reply-To: <86h6k77qco.fsf@aarsen.me> ("Arsen =?UTF-8?Q?Arsenovi=C4=87?="'s message of "Sun, 24 Dec 2023 13:00:44 +0100") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:VJXOWndkSUZCPp+jWb92nPAGx9nWmnwybNBwerPmJPrZH/1O1WN 0eMqoUdAcOPDSotlmxo8+99dK0ooJCL4CBmVD1U9kkKl2M9dQpIF2Crcn82VYBWg4MYS3oi D4uCQAkcpWkMSNxGFeLTZSJHTkRCgK75ReuU5GlJhCTrOvhjuyfMeKe6O8cqKoKOK8/TFTZ u7OrtHxAlh8BaEhe8zafw== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:laC0jKnZxcY=;IsTuRF4IXYfXizcR615i95MprZ0 aufSsxnKo341FUeLT9dQV7AeTX7z3ksQw0x8m2/sCZeF8s3fIkgZ3aK+7TsxyMcjrkSW3OV05 zLlIiq2c8C3VGsF1opN92NXEelu216rPdoSR7DPTccoKym8v//F4pKqeWMDji29iqG7zaNwcp 6gsCHw79EgIbMfYr/grpVDHPx/LJx0LjYeG7NOjYepcN6TLe5j8GWx1TJRpnhvjEzkqqp6qRO paxuQ7rGmWuQONY/ncpn+/+qaV+8eUAYVRc2rcsLFa6YeIs5tnDfp88V8OfU6cPT0iOgn/sCL LfKIwl9RjuCmhA8VIZ25TOBKG7RXxbaD2Tgk0a30vNAo6X5ZcQKZzpbbylIOtvuDtgDwNS12U 9/tBV8/9s5cot3gFMiJ/GwKAsxarRxEnfz+/lzZk7CoM+TqUleWtf1H1KP1ANQX3dYSAVZb7m /G+8N21Qft5D7/tNZOcQwQ2R0uyc9GTleH2rih6F7jmWu1vVwtkmWlS2MgVeiUNUNHsDnZ9ik LmKX0Y4KR/wgs4UcQtJPvrsX906daFuY35XSQA32bR5IYJr7eoB7daWlRYPbhALPgfCJTSPdG IjpWgNTHppv3dQBgm7ja11dW2NhvqXO29pmhIc92mMSpVqeFJTiJNuUx5cBWDup0RUHW72lwA Hi0OxKlVwe49rg7Ou9oKW6SJWdQjOt8sHtQ7Y6+wNf4DMW9TSbtMfiD2AbkQjdepTv7i7dV23 yh563FtPDk4a/K0ct0jCo9b+Uqk4o8Ydv8okiW86ap22KttYndKWi9pkQSOirdyo/VSNaCx1 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:276812 Archived-At: Arsen Arsenovi=C4=87 writes: Hi Arsen, >>> I disagree. I think that involving the f-n-h-a mechanism for handling >>> PGP files ultimately introduces implicitly far more complexity, even if >>> the code is slightly briefer, precisely because of this dependency. >> >> I disagree with your disagreement, and agree with Michael here. I see >> no maintainer's complexity in using file-name handlers that could be >> avoided by not using them: file-name handlers are, and will always be, >> an integral part of Emacs internals, so thinking about them as >> "complexity" makes no more sense than, say, thinking about GC as >> complexity. > > In that case, auth-source-pass should ensure it's there. This is where > the complexity I refer to creeps in. Now auth-source-pass needs to > alter and restore file-name-handler-alist as appropriate. This means > that it has to get involved with global state, potentially impacting > other functions it calls. No, auth-source-pass should not enable it on its own I believe. It should fire an error, which hopefully produces a backtrace. This backtrace would help us to understand, what's up. > It seems to me more reliable to alter EPA to provide an > insert-file-contents functions for direct use. This is less composable > and elegant than file-name handlers, naturally, but it is also exactly > what a password-store read requires. No. There is no reason to implement this. > Arsen Arsenovi=C4=87 Best regards, Michael.