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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 00d7aed3ddf2825268f6020b6fdf4a0f; Thu, 02 May 2024 12:08:18 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <878r0sv2s4.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Thu, 02 May 2024 20:03:55 +0800") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22256 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.185.147; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic305-21.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:318570 Archived-At: Po Lu writes: > Dmitry Gutov writes: > >> I'm pretty sure there are a lot of icon sets out there that are more >> appealing, and with compatible license, it's just that nobody made a >> real effort to choose one and present that choice. > > Wasn't it only two years ago that the very question of tool bar icons > was raised and debated ferociously on this list? As it happens, the > feature branch where one potential option was implemented is yet > available: > > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/log/?h=scratch/icons > > and at the time, the consensus was that there was inadequate contrast > between different icons in this collection, that they appeared > out-of-place amidst the rest of our user interface, and that there was > really no obstacle to introducing even this new icon set, provided that > it was disabled by default, and could be easily toggled. (Sound > familiar? It should, for you and yours truly both participated in the > subsequent thread, and by no stretch of the imagination is a feature > branch with a hefty set of diffs from master a "real effort to choose ^ I meant to say, not a "real effort...