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From: Michael Albinus via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>
Cc: 70901@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#70901: 30.0.50; Tramp doesn't use ControlMaster even with (setq tramp-use-connection-share nil)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 19:47:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v83bvwpm.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8766dc06-afb5-449f-b65d-b113d77251a3@gutov.dev> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Sat, 18 May 2024 20:02:20 +0300")

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Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev> writes:

Hi Dmitry,

> Do you perhaps see a way to change messaging (to the echo area) that
> would remove the impression that the connection is still being
> established after it has already been established (and we're in the
> process of additional Tramp connection initialization)?

Tramp messages are grouped in different levels. If we want more
fine-grained information, the respective message should have a higher
level. Tramp is thrifty with level 3 messages.

However, per default Tramp shows only messages up to level 3. A message
with a higher level wouldn't be seen by the majority of the users.

What if we document the meaning of the "Opening connection ..." message
instead? Something like


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diff --git a/doc/misc/tramp.texi b/doc/misc/tramp.texi
index d1c58d83aeb..45be1e27931 100644
--- a/doc/misc/tramp.texi
+++ b/doc/misc/tramp.texi
@@ -2940,6 +2940,13 @@ Ssh setup
 set to @code{t} or @code{suppress}, @command{plink} is called with the
 option @option{-share} or @option{-noshare}, respectively.

+@strong{Note} that the @value{tramp} message @samp{Opening connection
+...} in the echo area spans not only the time until @command{ssh} or
+@command{plink} return the echo prompt.  It includes also the time for
+initialization @value{tramp} performs on the remote host.  Therefore,
+the effect of the @code{tramp-use-connection-share} setting isn't
+determined by this time period completely.
+

 @subsection Configure direct copying between two remote servers


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Best regards, Michael.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-18 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-13  2:00 bug#70901: 30.0.50; Tramp doesn't use ControlMaster even with (setq tramp-use-connection-share nil) Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-13  6:07 ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
     [not found]   ` <44185444-8a6a-4924-88f9-853f65a1c61a@gutov.dev>
2024-05-14  9:01     ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-14 19:02       ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-15  8:17         ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-15 14:45           ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-15 18:15             ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-15 19:55               ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-16  9:42                 ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-16 19:50                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-17 14:57                     ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-18  2:29                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-18 11:19                         ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-18 14:11                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-18 17:00                             ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-18 17:02                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-18 17:47                                 ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2024-05-19  0:07                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-23 16:25                                     ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-24 19:12                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-25  9:42                                         ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-19  0:49                 ` Dmitry Gutov

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