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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:319887 Archived-At: Philip Kaludercic writes: > How come? If we were to copy the branches from elpa.git to emacs.git > and adjust the build system in such a way that the packages are checked > out using worktrees (as elpa-admin does), then the bundled packages > should be made available as a side-effect of trying to build Emacs. But does this not amount to leaving those packages as they stand, just with a more cumbersome build process? I doubt very much that the exponents of moving packages to ELPA had such an arrangement in mind when they first framed their proposals, and to me this appears to offer little advantage over the status quo.