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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:322825 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > I think we can remove the unexec build in Emacs 31, and consequently > also purespace. I was planning to propose doing that, but I'm happy > that Pip beat me to it. Portable dumping doesn't function on Windows 98 or DOS. Please fix or implement pdumper on these two platforms first, or hack their unexec builds not to require pure space, which should not be terribly difficult. Moreover, whatever becomes of the portable ELF unexec should not affect the Solaris unexec, which is provided by the operating system and should function without the likes of gmalloc. Otherwise this proposal won't fly.