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From: Pip Cet via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: spd@toadstyle.org, gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 19:20:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v7v3eht9.fsf@protonmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <861pxrsk1z.fsf@gnu.org>

"Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 20:50:22 +0200
>> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
>> Cc: spd@toadstyle.org, gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>>
>> > > What do we expect to learn from this,
>> >
>> > It tests the current code, which does this:
>> >
>> > When a signal arrives, and we can't handle it because we might have
>> > interrupted MPS, we mark the signal as pending in the igc structure.  At
>> > some point later, we check the igc structure for pending signals,
>> > reraise them, and unmask them.
>> >
>> > Gerd's experience suggests that the "some point later" happens too late.
>> > This patch gives us measurements.
>> >
>> > It's unrelated to the OS scheduler, AFAICS.
>>
>> Ah, okay.  I note that if we'd block signals when calling MPS and
>> unblock on exit, then these delays couldn't have happened, AFAIU.
>
> But OTOH, if this delaying of a signal affects responsiveness, then
> all we need to do is exempt SIGSEGV from being delayed, right?  This
> signal-delay mechanism was invented for SIGPROF, SIGCHLD, and SIGALRM,
> but there's no reason to delay SIGSEGV.

SIGSEGV is never delayed in any proposal I'm aware of.  I don't see how
it could be, to be honest, but maybe I'm missing something there.

> And AFAIU, on macOS there's no SIGSEGV anyway, is that right?  So why
> does this delaying affect responsiveness?

Possibly SIGPOLL.

Pip




  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-28 19:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-28 13:24 igc, macOS avoiding signals Sean Devlin
2024-12-28 13:28 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 14:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 14:45     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 15:12 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 17:30   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 18:40     ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 18:50       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 19:07         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 19:20           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions. [this message]
2024-12-28 19:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 20:54               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-29  5:51                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 19:15         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 19:30           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 16:29 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-29  2:21   ` Sean Devlin
2024-12-29 12:22     ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-29 15:01       ` Gerd Möllmann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-12-28  6:40 Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 12:49 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 12:55   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 13:50     ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-29  8:02       ` Helmut Eller

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