From: Pip Cet via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: spd@toadstyle.org, gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 19:20:40 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v7v3eht9.fsf@protonmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <861pxrsk1z.fsf@gnu.org>
"Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 20:50:22 +0200
>> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
>> Cc: spd@toadstyle.org, gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>>
>> > > What do we expect to learn from this,
>> >
>> > It tests the current code, which does this:
>> >
>> > When a signal arrives, and we can't handle it because we might have
>> > interrupted MPS, we mark the signal as pending in the igc structure. At
>> > some point later, we check the igc structure for pending signals,
>> > reraise them, and unmask them.
>> >
>> > Gerd's experience suggests that the "some point later" happens too late.
>> > This patch gives us measurements.
>> >
>> > It's unrelated to the OS scheduler, AFAICS.
>>
>> Ah, okay. I note that if we'd block signals when calling MPS and
>> unblock on exit, then these delays couldn't have happened, AFAIU.
>
> But OTOH, if this delaying of a signal affects responsiveness, then
> all we need to do is exempt SIGSEGV from being delayed, right? This
> signal-delay mechanism was invented for SIGPROF, SIGCHLD, and SIGALRM,
> but there's no reason to delay SIGSEGV.
SIGSEGV is never delayed in any proposal I'm aware of. I don't see how
it could be, to be honest, but maybe I'm missing something there.
> And AFAIU, on macOS there's no SIGSEGV anyway, is that right? So why
> does this delaying affect responsiveness?
Possibly SIGPOLL.
Pip
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Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-28 13:24 igc, macOS avoiding signals Sean Devlin
2024-12-28 13:28 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 14:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 14:45 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 15:12 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 18:40 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 18:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 19:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 19:20 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions. [this message]
2024-12-28 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 20:54 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-29 5:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 19:15 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 19:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 16:29 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-29 2:21 ` Sean Devlin
2024-12-29 12:22 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-29 15:01 ` Gerd Möllmann
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2024-12-28 6:40 Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 12:49 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 12:55 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 13:50 ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-29 8:02 ` Helmut Eller
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