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I'm posting here because my posts to emacs-devel bounce because I bet
I am Asian Spam.

>     all I know is the user feels the current file is in the wrong coding
>     system.  he finds options)mule)set-coding-system ... apparently just
>     what he needs, but low and behold, unlike everything else on the menu,
>     it is curiously unselectible, leaving him with nowhere else to turn.
> 
>     Just the command he needs, and it is unselectible.
> 
> If there were a menu item "visit again in new coding system",
> would that make it clear what to do?

There you go.  I guess one doesn't get to idol status for nothing.

RMS has solved the problem.  Add an additional menu item or sub
item...

By the way, my previous golden keystrokes bounced (because I'm Asian
Spam), so here's a replay so that they don't get wasted:

To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: emacs-devel@moderators.isc.org
Subject: Re: when options)mule)set-coding-system is unselectable
From: Dan Jacobson <jidanni@dman.ddts.net>
Date: 30 Jul 2002 08:46:26 +0800

DJ>     Well, the simplest thing to do until a better solution is found, is to
DJ>     have its lights turned back on, but a big balloon message pop if the
DJ>     user does select it, with the above "Wrong move..." message inside,
DJ>     suitably rephrased.  

RMS> I don't understand that in concrete terms.  Would you please make
RMS> a concrete suggestion?

all I know is the user feels the current file is in the wrong coding
system.  he finds options)mule)set-coding-system ... apparently just
what he needs, but low and behold, unlike everything else on the menu,
it is curiously unselectible, leaving him with nowhere else to turn.

Just the command he needs, and it is unselectible.

If this was microsoft, at least a paperclip would jump up and tell him
what things he might do at this point...

So, make it selectable, triggering the emacs paperclip.  Something,
anything instead of "sorry, the vending machine is out of your
selection, pick another selection".... wait, we don't even get that
(vending machine...) message out of emacs here, just an unlight selection.
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