From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dieter Wilhelm Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: display.texi: (,) isn't documented. Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 20:13:26 +0200 Organization: The Church of Emacs Message-ID: <87tztjk4zd.fsf@debby.local.net> References: <87y7ivkago.fsf@debby.local.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1181240079 6989 80.91.229.12 (7 Jun 2007 18:14:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 18:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 07 20:14:36 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HwMVG-00086K-Sn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 20:14:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HwMVF-0003H1-VT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:14:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HwMVC-0003FB-Kf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:14:30 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HwMVA-0003Co-Q1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:14:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HwMVA-0003CU-Jv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:14:28 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.174]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HwMV9-0003sA-Mx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:14:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [89.12.116.193] (helo=debby.local.net) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwpI-1HwMV60KJc-00045O; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 20:14:24 +0200 Original-Received: from dieter by debby.local.net with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1HwMUA-0002Ev-Hn; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 20:13:26 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Thu\, 7 Jun 2007 10\:18\:42 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.990 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/13s8yYk1GywX6vc+Cf8ppMHcZYiq4Ran7w7S ZWCGKuf88dSrO6ZgSFg0kcD08CUrWAzbPwIYPASPkG8JykzsWp pplBsamc4WYhWj/3hXXYgwU5UL5b+pv X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72429 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: >> 12345c0 12345:0 12345-0 >> 12345c12345 12345:12345 12345-12345 >> >> With c the meaning is clearer, I think, with the dash it's more >> readable. I'd choose the single c. > > In 30c40, what makes one necessarily associate the c with 40 and not 30? In Right, but without (column-number-mode t) it's L30 so the association is with the number behind the letter by customary (Emacs) right ;-). > don't see why that's obvious, but if most people think it is, then there is > nothing wrong with (12,25). It needs two letter more. > 12:25 can be confused with a time. 12-25 can be confused with a range of > some kind (12 through 25). 12.25 can be confused with a decimal number. Yes and '.' is already taken up: . -- Emacs load specification, good mathematical association for floating point load values. : -- Emacs time specification, good cultural association (in Germany at least). c -- column specification, understandable for English speaking users, one could also internationalise it a bit, e.g. 's' (Spalte) for us Germans: 12s25 and so on. > I prefer 25x 12y (or 12y 25x), personally, but I can live with any of the > proposals, including what we have now. Let the Grand Gnu choose. Is this an allusion to St IGNUcius (http://www.stallman.org/saint.html)? When such extremely important things are to be decided it's always a good thing to ask for higher authorities 8-). -- Best wishes H. Dieter Wilhelm Darmstadt, Germany