From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: M-q when the region is active (Re: TAB when the region is active) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 02:18:38 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87tzpdysa9.fsf_-_@jurta.org> References: <87sl54hnhw.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1191109339 9567 80.91.229.12 (29 Sep 2007 23:42:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 23:42:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dann@ics.uci.edu, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 30 01:42:14 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Iblws-0001v6-9K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:42:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iblwo-0004gt-FI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:42:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iblwl-0004ge-Ae for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:42:07 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iblwi-0004gB-Vw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:42:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iblwi-0004g8-R8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:42:04 -0400 Original-Received: from relay01.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.200]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Iblwi-0007wd-Bf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:42:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay01.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IblwV-000JHx-Jl; Sun, 30 Sep 2007 02:42:02 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun\, 23 Sep 2007 23\:50\:50 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: d0b3bc0b24c4067239780ad28ae5b444 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 1523 [September 28 2007] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Info: {TO: local part of email appears in body} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 35 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-Detected-Kernel: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:80033 Archived-At: > Actually I rarely if ever use fill-region whereas I use > fill-region-as-paragraph much more often. Typically the way this works is > that fill-paragraph doesn't do the right thing, so I use > fill-region-as-paragraph to tell Emacs exactly which part of the text > should be considered as a paragraph. Most often I use `fill-region' to refill several separate paragraphs in a selected chapter or the whole buffer. > This is even worse with fill-region because while fill-paragraph can be > tuned via fill-paragraph-function, fill-region is 100% hard coded and the > major can't do anything about it. This is actually a bug, IMNSHO, which I'd > like to fix by introducing fill-paragraph-forward-function whose value would > default to forward-paragraph. I discovered that some packages in the Emacs source tree already refer to the function with the same name that exists in XEmacs. I looked at its definition in XEmacs and found that it works exactly as I proposed: when the region is active it calls `fill-region', otherwise `fill-paragraph'. Is this a good enough reason to use `fill-region' on the active region, and not other fill-related functions, for the sake of compatibility? IMHO, it was a good decision to use `fill-region' in XEmacs. What do you think about doing the same in Emacs together with your improvements in `fill-region'? -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/